Hardware encoding

johnebaker wrote on 9/22/2022, 9:45 AM

Hi

What devices are available in the Program settings, Device options tab, Import, Processing and Export options?

Are you graphics card(s) drivers up to date and from the original manufacturers - not the Windows installed versions?

I would suggest you put computer specification, Windows version and program version in your profile signature, see this topic for what is required and please quote processor and graphics card make/model in full, and also what monitor/screen resolution(s) your are working with if this is a laptop.

John EB
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Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:15 AM

Import, Processing and Export options are all set to NVidea GeForce GT 1030.

System is Windows 10, i5-3470 with 32GB Ram, on board Intel graphics. Resolution 1920x1080

I didn't bother with the specs as hardware encoding works with the previous version

johnebaker wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:38 AM

@Andrew-Martin9281

Hi

. . . . Import, Processing and Export options are all set to NVidea GeForce GT 1030. . . .

Export Hardware acceleration (HWA) of h.264/AVC and h.265 encoded video using the GT 1030 is not possible in both MMS 2023 and MEP 2022 as the GPU does not support NVENC which is required for HWA to take place.

However some HWA may be possible using the Intel integrated HD 2500 GPU at a very restricted level - see this Intel article for more information..

John EB

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:49 AM

Thanks for the link. Strange that it does work in MEP2022 on the same system as shown in the screenshot.

johnebaker wrote on 9/22/2022, 1:59 PM

@Andrew-Martin9281

Hi

Can you post a screenshot of the Device options tab in MEP 2022.

John EB

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 9/22/2022, 2:16 PM

I'm out of the country now for 2 weeks so can't access the pc. I had compared the settings first and the only difference I could see was the new Intel option at the bottom. The Nvidea card was listed

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 10/4/2022, 5:07 AM

Here are the device option in MEP 2022

CubeAce wrote on 10/4/2022, 5:45 AM

@Andrew-Martin9281

Hi Andrew.

What we need to see is this drop down box to see if your Intel graphics chip is listed.

If it isn't, you may have to plug your monitor into the motherboards GPU socket to activate it. Then you may get some limited hardware encoding.

Ray.

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 10/4/2022, 5:53 AM

MEP 2022

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 10/4/2022, 5:53 AM

MEP 2023

CubeAce wrote on 10/4/2022, 7:56 AM

@Andrew-Martin9281

Hi Andrew.

So it is showing.

Try setting all the boxes to Intel HD graphics.

See how that works.

If it is not so good try just setting the export to Intel HD graphics leave the others on nvidia and see if there is any improvement.

Ray.

Andrew-Martin9281 wrote on 10/4/2022, 8:34 AM

If I set all the boxes to Intel HD, MEP 2023 crashes ( I sent the crash log). If I just set the export to Intel HD, hardware is not enabled. Still works in MEP 2022.

CubeAce wrote on 10/4/2022, 11:10 AM

@Andrew-Martin9281

Hi Andrew. So it looks like one upgrade too many if you want use hardware acceleration.

Microsoft Warp may help speed things up a bit for export only but beyond that I'm not sure what to recommend. The program itself should be stable enough even set to use all CPU but may be a bit unresponsive and slow.

The nvidia card should still work with 3D rendering in the processing section and help with importing. You can check by opening the task Manager and see which components are doing what but it looks like you are stuck with software encoding with MS 2023 I'm afraid.

If it was working in the 2022 version it would have been the Intel GPU not the nvidia that was doing the encoding work.

Ray.

me_again wrote on 11/7/2022, 5:34 AM

Greetings all

I thought I'd post this here rather than start a new topic, apologies if that's wrong, but this may be relevant to the OP if he's using a non-standard ratio.

I have a similar problem with MS2023. Occasionally I create a slideshow in 3:2 ratio at 1800x1200 resolution, which worked fine with MEP 2022 and previous versions (except 2021 I think) but refuses to encode to that ratio with my Nvidia RTX 2060.

It's really odd in that every other preset ratio (or slightly modified) works fine encoding at 5,000,000 fts - OK a slight exaggeration - with Hardware Encoding, be it Slideshow or true video.

Even more odd is that if I change the export to Intel UHD Graphics 770 within Device Options, it encodes at 3:2 with no problem.

So it must be an Nvidia thing not Magix - for once. The Intel GPU is generally about 10% slower for encoding compared the GTX 2060 with "ordinary" encoding.

If anyone has the inclination to try and duplicate this I'd be interested to hear (read!)

AndyW

ps Yes, all drivers are up to date.

johnebaker wrote on 11/7/2022, 6:11 AM

@me_again

Hi Andy

. . . . it's really odd in that every other preset ratio (or slightly modified) works fine encoding . . . .

Works fine here, despite the export dialog saying no Hardware Acceleration and whatever the project setting AR is, the RTX 2060 is still being used and the finished export is 3:2 AR

I am on the 526.47 (31.0.15.2647) driver for the RTX

. . . . . encoding at 5,000,000 fts . . . . .

Wow Mach 4478 - now where was that tweak for light speed? Having said that we view the video at light speed. 😎.

John EB

me_again wrote on 11/7/2022, 7:36 AM

@johnebaker

Thanks for the reply John but it seems even more odd with your result. I have the same driver, and the RTX 2060 does encode, albeit with no Hardware Encoding, to 3:2 format. It's always said "No Hardware encoding" but the speed and Performance Monitor belie that.

To demonstrate I used a 10 minute slideshow encoded to HEVC with no audio and only crossfades, downgrading the reolution to 900x600 - a resolution that has worked perfectly in the past with the RTX accelerated encoding:-

CPU encoding took 4 minutes 01 seconds with no Hardware Encoding

Microsoft Warp encoding took 3 minutes and 51 seconds with no Hardware Encoding

Nvidia RTX 2060 encoding took 3 minutes 59 seconds with (apparently) no Hardware Encoding

Intel UHD Graphics 770 took 1 minute 39 seconds WITH Hardware Encoding

Then i exported the same slideshow to 1024x720 16:9 (the closest "standard" resolution to 900x600) using the RTX 2060. This took 32 seconds and equates to the speed I enjoyed in MEP 2022 or 3:2 export.

Something very weird is going on in my system.

AndyW

me_again wrote on 11/8/2022, 12:41 AM

Greetings,

The last time I created an animated slideshow in 1800x1200 3:2 format was on the 23 October using MEP 2022, which was 9 days before i "progressed" onto MS 2023. Nvidia hardware must have been used for the encoding, I would have noticed if not; as I did yesterday.

Luckily I don't do too many edits in this format and I'm lucky enough to have an Intel GPU that does the job well albeit slightly slower, so it's easy enough to click over to use that for exporting.

Enough said I think.

AndyW