"Film Grain" effect (in Movie Edit Pro)..?

Tesityr wrote on 2/1/2019, 6:29 PM

Just wondering if I am missing something, as I do not seem to be able to find any "film grain effect" in Movie Edit Pro Plus... I went through all the categories of Effects and did a Search here in the Forum to see if anyone has asked about it first - but I can't seem to find any information on it.

 

While there are some decent Effects included in MEP, I wanted to ask here first, before adding Grain manually (eg. overlay video of 'static', etc) just in case I missed something somewhere - it would be a lot easier if there were something included already, so I don't want to bypass that, if there is, heh.

 

Edit:

Is this something that is found in Movie Edit Premium? I would consider Upgrading at some point in the future when I can, if more 'advanced' Effects like this are present in Premium...

 

Thanks for any input!

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terrypin wrote on 2/2/2019, 4:42 AM

Hi,

You didn't say which version of MEP you have, but all since at least 2014 should have an effect similar to this one:

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

emmrecs wrote on 2/2/2019, 5:14 AM

@terrypin @Tesityr

Hi Terry.

Thanks for the pointer.

In the latest version of MEP its location is slightly different: Effects>Video Effects>General Options.

That's in Premium; whether it's also available in Plus I honestly don't know.

HTH

Jeff

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Tesityr wrote on 2/2/2019, 3:28 PM

Hi,

You didn't say which version of MEP you have, but all since at least 2014 should have an effect similar to this one:

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Thanks for your inquiry - it is Version 17 (2018).

The effect you speak of ("old movie") is present, but that does not add Film Grain, unfortunately. It appears to only put lines on top of, and shake the screen ('jitter'), add a Sepia colour filter, and a Vignette - it does not add the 'texture/static' of a "Film Grain" effect.

Thanks for your Suggestion, though!

Tesityr wrote on 2/2/2019, 3:32 PM

@terrypin @Tesityr

Hi Terry.

Thanks for the pointer.

In the latest version of MEP its location is slightly different: Effects>Video Effects>General Options.

That's in Premium; whether it's also available in Plus I honestly don't know.

HTH

Jeff


Hi Jeff, yes it is present in Plus; but sadly it does not have any 'Film Grain' effects within it (slightly odd, as other "old timey effects" in a couple other video editing programs have Grain, or similar additions, such as Dust, Scratches, etc). Anyway, I was wondering if I was missing any 'Film Grain' effect somewhere...

 

If it's not present in the Premium version either, that's OK - I can manually make one from generating some Static and using that at an overlay or utilize a helpful free 'grain overlay' from somewhere... I was just wanting to make sure I didn't miss one that is already there. Thanks though.

CubeAce wrote on 2/2/2019, 4:24 PM

MEP Premim 2018 has Hit Film Grain under Effects which does a good job.

In Templates / Movie Looks / Film Looks Basic, you can choose 16mm which is also very good and also mix the two together. I used it to make a video look as though it was going backwards from present day to similar to a Pathe News cinema newsreel.

https://flic.kr/p/2c4W6pS

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Tesityr wrote on 2/2/2019, 4:55 PM

MEP Premim 2018 has Hit Film Grain under Effects which does a good job.

In Templates / Movie Looks / Film Looks Basic, you can choose 16mm which is also very good and also mix the two together. I used it to make a video look as though it was going backwards from present day to similar to a Pathe News cinema newsreel.

https://flic.kr/p/2c4W6pS


Great stuff!

Maybe someday I'll be able to get the Premium version then - I look forward to trying it out - thanks for the heads-up, CubeAce!

CubeAce wrote on 2/2/2019, 7:02 PM

@Tesityr

Yes, it's worth looking out for when it comes up at a discounted price. I got my copy from this site for £59:00

There are other templates and effects within MEP Premium which can also help if you have a creative attitude to experimentation. I find the program very flexible if I can sidle up to a problem sideways to it 😉. For instance, with a little help from the program I'm sure I could make the video appear as if it was film coming off the sprockets in a projector.

 

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browj2 wrote on 2/2/2019, 10:14 PM

Hi,

First, the difference between Plus and Premium is in the third party add-ons, not the program and built-in features, so remember that before purchasing. Sometimes Magix bundles third party add-ons (plug-ins) with Plus, so watch the Magix.com site often for sales and bundles.

MEP itself does not currently have a Grain feature as part of its tools. VPX does, with an effect called Add Noise.

However, if you get the HitFilm Toolkit Pack, it contains HitFilm Film Grain as indicated by CubeAce, shown below:

Or if you get HitFilm Movie Essentials Pack, there is HitFilm Noise, which does something similar but not as flexible:

And here is VPX Add Noise effect:

Most of us are trying to get rid of the Noise/Grain.

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