@emmrecs

Hi

. . . . change the driver every time I open VPX . . . .

I have just updated to .268 and changing the sound setting(s) hold upon restarting VPX - tested may times and checked the ini file to make sure DirectSound setting is saved correctly ie this line gets entered into the ini file

IsDirectSoundAktive=0

and does not change until I manually change the setting back to DirectSound when the ini entry is removed.

Same for whichever audio output device I select.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

Mea Culpa!! 😳😳

You are right, manually changing the driver does "stick" for subsequent openings. I'm almost tempted to delete my post but maybe, others can learn from my foolishness!

Jeff

@johnebaker

Thanks for clarifying the Playback Sound settings will stick. I guess it was the way it is written in the patch notes:-

DirectSound with adjusted buffer size is now set as the default on program startup.

Maybe that should have read ..... is now selected by default on program update / installation.

As I am not in a position to install yet, I am interested what effect users are seeing with this Direct sound setting selected.

Can someone explain what this setting does.
I use a usb codec so I don't know if it will have an affect on me.
If it's able to be set back to where it was then I guess it doesn't matter which makes me wonder why they changed it in the patch anyway.
I am more interested in whether previously working functions have been broken.
I think I'll leave it for a bit before I commit.
Doug.
 

Hi Doug

DirectSound is an old/deprecated driver for Windows to use to access the sound cards that do not support ASIO or WASAPI, the latest method (brought out with Vista !!!) of communicating with audio devices, from Microsoft.

Directsound is also used where ASIO cause issues eg locking out the audio card/chipset from other programs that want to use the sound card.

. . . . I use a usb codec . . . .

I presume by this you are using an external USB sound device for playback in which case you may have to change the setting back to the ext sound card after you install the update.

HTH

John EB

After the upgrade, the program generally works less efficiently. He "thinks" longer, he reacts later. Performance dropped.

Hi all,

I just checked. I think I had the Direct Sound to output to my headphones through my M-Audio M-Track interface, which has it's own ASIO driver, but I'm not sure. When I started up VPX, it showed Primary Source - my speakers. I switched to Wave Driver, Output (M-Audio M-Track, saved, exited, restarted the computer and VPX, and it was still on the Wave Driver, Output (M-Audio M-Track.

I haven't thoroughly checked out the NB and HitFilm OFX plugins to see if there are still problems.

Anyone have any urgent problems that are not on my list below?

@MAGIX_Redaktion

After editing for several hours with the new patch yesterday, almost everything went smoothly. However, checking my list that I published previously, there was almost nothing fixed from that list. I realize that there were other problems that were more urgent. I am in the process of revising my bug list, actually a new numbered list (started below) with only current problems.

There are a few bugs raised that should be addressed as quickly as possible, especially the first three, and some of which should be quite simple:

1. Fix the Startup menu screen to remember the last projects opened;
2. Fix the crash caused by importing a take;
3. Fix problems with Nested Sequences - dragging one onto the timeline now causes the timeline (preview monitor) to go black, but can be resolved by toggling the Display mode; complicated sequences, like a PiP which isn't really complicated, can cause a crash, sometimes;
4. Fix the preview of icons under Templates, Design Elements, Collages - presently shows only the Cover icon - collage.png for all collages;
5. Fix the preview of icons under Templates, Image Objects - ColorFields and Pictures. The icons are in the folder under Program Data, but they do not show up on the screen;
6. Import tab: Link to the folder under MAGIX Tools for XAR is missing (or has this been eliminated?); Alternative - add in a folder to Design Elements for these;
7. On-going problem: Right-click on the audio part of a video object, no command for "Edit in external editor." This has been an intermittent problem, sometimes it's there in a version or patch, sometimes not. It's there for wave files and proxies, but not for my videos clips that are mov, mts, and mp4 files. We need to be able to send out the audio to an external editor for cleaning.

Good enough for now. I'll add in the other problems later.

Please let me know if you need visuals/video demonstrating any of the issues.

Thanks,

John CB

@browj2

Have been testing your list with the following results - same item numbers:

1. . . . . remember the last projects . . . . confirmed
2. . . . . Assuming you mean scenes . . . . program does not crash everything works, however cannot close the program without using Task Manager
3. . . . . Nested sequences . . . . cannot replicate, preview monitor works OK (Direct3D HWA mode).
4. . . . . Collage icons . . . . confirmed
5. . . . . ColorFields and Pictures . . . . confirmed however my locations are called Test images and Backgrounds
6. . . . . MAGIX Tools for XAR is missing . . . . confirmed, also in MEP 17.0.3.184
7. . . . . Edit in external editor . . . . confirmed

Added: NB OFX effects still blacking out preview screen

Added: Item 2 confirmed using takes. Issue not closing with scenes still present.

HTH

John EB

Greetings all. I've updated to .268, and I run Win 10 Home 64b, 1803.

Something seems to have gone very weird with VPX multicam; I'm trying to derive a sensible, detailed description of what's up, but what I see at present is inconsistent, so it may take a while. In the mean time, I thought I'd ask if anyone here had noticed anything odd going on.

In essence, I drag and drop four full HD 1850p streams onto tks 3/4,5/6,7/8 and 9/10 from "Import", then add a master audio track below. (After .268, the setting of vision and sound mutes/unmutes as you drop into and out of multicam mode seem less rigorous than I remember from pre .268. That's a detail, though.)

What concerns me is what now happens to the sound during multicam. For the purposes of demo, I moved the caret along the timeline by a small amount, afterwards selecting a different camera each time - one of the many perfectly legitimate ways to generate multi-cam output. I've found at least two problems:

1. Sometimes, although a waveform is copied into track 2 as you watch, there is no audio heard. Nor is any heard when you switch back out of multicam, nor if the result is exported. Track 2 is marked as unmuted all this time.
2. Even more odd, if you step rigorously through the four available channels on the monitor (cyclically top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right, top left etc), the sound display corresponding to the top left "camera" always fades to zero at its right hand side, but not immediately after you've cut to top right, only when you've gone round to bottom left. In fact, there's another inconsistency in that as you cut from top right to bottom left, you don't see the cut visually appear on Track 1 until after you've gone on to bottom right; all other cuts appear immediately.

Please see the screen-shot which should make it clearer. On those occasions when sound is heard from track 2 rather than over-all silence, volume does follow the fade down shown. But the whole thing is inconsistent - I've actually run tests when the volume has faded in rather than out!

If anyone has the time to do a quick test I'd appreciate it; in the mean time I'll continue to try to make engineering sense of what I see!

Thank you - Mike -

@Recycler

Hi Mike

Definitely something funny going on.

I cannot confirm your item 1.

I can confirm item 2 however I do not quite get the same results ie:

• Manually move cursor cycling through videos 1 - 4 starting with 1 going round clockwise
  
  
  
  this is repeatable.
   
• Manually move cursor cycling through videos 1 - 4 starting with 3 going round clockwise
  
  
  
  this is repeatable.
   
• Select first movie then run timeline and pause 2 times - points 2 and 3 - note object 4
  
  
  
  this is repeatable for first object selected after the pause and sometimes another object also fades out eg above object 4 no pause after 3.
   
• . . . . as you cut from top right to bottom left, you don't see the cut visually appear on Track 1 until after you've gone on to bottom right; all other cuts appear immediately . . . .
  
  Confirmed

HTH

John EB

Thanks, John EB. I have experienced 'fade up then fade down' once or twice, but the most repeatable here is the fade down. At least your work indicates that it's probably the program, not simply me! I'll tidy up my findings tomorrow and ask Support to take a look.

@Recycler
Thanks for this info Mike.
This is exactly why I have decided not to do the update at this point.
If they can break something that has been working since the 1st VPX then we are in trouble.
I have only just re visited the multi cam function and it was all working fine.
Generally I do all my multi cam manually so it doesn't bother me too much if it doesn't work at the moment.
I had mentioned in a past comment that there have been 2 updates to the windows 1803 since it was first released and since the most recent, VPX has been working the best it ever has for me.
No crashes or freezes and I have been throwing a lot at it lately.
There are still the annoying things like not remembering the media pool for last project and not remembering the last video effect I used but they are minor things that I hope will be looked at sometime.
I feel that if things are being broken with every patch then there may never be a resolution to the problem and we will work with what we have and adapt our procedures.
Doug.

Another oddity on this multicam business is that it proves impossible to drag any cut leftwards which is preceded by a volume fadeout. The edge simply won't move! All my findings have been reported to Support. This is not a stopper for me (luckily I seem to have a number of jobs just at present), but the work-arounds get a bit tedious and I'm neurotically making backups! What fun.....

- Mike -

Just to report that Support have acknowledged that the Multicam malfunction is a reproducible bug and will be patched in due course.

- Mike -

Hi all,

Just a quick word regarding the switch to DirectSound - This change was indeed not intended and may have a negative impact on program performance. Switching back to "Wave" drivers is recommended in those cases. Development is currently looking into why this change happened, or what other change to the program may have caused (or even necessitated) it.

Yep, multicam editing problems have been reported to development as well.

Cheers!

Additional problems. See my list above for items 1 to 7.

8. NewBlue OFX effects still blacking out preview screen

9. Multi-Cam issues

10. Edit Trimmer - see all of the problems that I outlined in the list for the previous edition - items 15 and 21. Here is the link to 21 of the last list.

11. Startup movie - if there is more than 1 movie, it seems that VPX always starts with the last one. It should remember where one was when the project was last saved.

12. Still problem on my Surface Pro 4 - Templates tab: The vertical scroll bar cannot be dragged up and down, only sideways to expand/contract the listing window. The mouse indicator changes to a left/right arrow. No problem on desktop - non-touch screen.

13. On-going problem: Exporting from Samplitude Pro X3 to Video Pro X (see under the export options in  Samplitude), mixes down the audio, saves the file, opens Video Pro X but the audio file does not show up in VPX. If VPX is open before exporting, Samplitude tries to open a second instance; it should not. Going from MusicMaker to MEP (both ways) is simple and effective. Going from Samplitude to VPX (both ways) is almost impossible.

@ralftaro

Link to the folder under MAGIX Tools for XAR is missing or has this been eliminated? If so, why? The files are still available at: C:\ProgramData\MAGIX\Video Pro X\8\XAR (8 is still the location for VPX10).

John CB

I've read several VPX posts, but I do not think I saw a question about Import Video Preview.

When I go to import and look at my dozens of videos and click the play/stop arrow on the file or double click,

I can play about 3 or 4 in a row smoothly, then all of the following video previews freeze or stutter.

I have no problem in VPX4 or Vegas with this. Only VPX16. Thanks!

What do you mean by VPX 16.

Do you mean 6?

Version 16.0.1.268

Is this called VPX10?

Anyway, the newest one...I haven't upgraded since VPX4

I have just updated to that but not having any issues with previewing.

Im really hoping the next patch sorts out a lot of things.

Doug.

@madAhorn

Hi

Please read this topic, start a new topic on your preview issue and include all the information requested in that topic.

John EB

"How do you like version 16.0.1.268 so far?? is the subject of this post.

I just got that version and was wondering if this problem might be related to that version.

No misunderstanding here about how to post on a forum.

I might start a separate topic if Tech Support does not respond.

Thanks!