DVD menus and the number of items per menu page - an observation

johnebaker wrote on 12/5/2012, 4:42 PM

Several users have posted about how many items can they put on one DVD menu and problems they have found.

I have been experimenting with this (MEP 2013) and have found the following -

1.  Most of the DVD templates will allow up to 6 movies/chapters on one page - any more than 6 and a second page is created.

2.  The exceptions are the Clockwork and Red Smoke menus - these will allow more than 6 items.

In both cases though I have found that if there are more than 6 items to the movie menu page either added manually in the case of templates not described in 2, or automatically or manually, in the case of the Clockwork and Red Smoke - then the menus will not function correctly, if at all.

In the case of the Clockwork and Red Smoke templates - with a 7th menu item, the disc cannot be read or it crashes both my DVD playing software on my PC - Nero Player and PowerDVD and locks up my DVD and BD players so they do not respond at all.

It does not appear to damage the players as they work OK after powering them down to reset them.

I would appreciate it if someone can try this and see if they can replicate it.

John

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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terrypin wrote on 12/6/2012, 5:09 AM

Hi John,

I've not been able to reproduce this.

First, the first more general issue you reported:

 

 

 

 

Second, your special cases

 

To me this points to either a project-related issue (mine was about as simple as you can get), a hardware problem, or perhaps a faulty disc?

Perhaps you can double check by reproducing my simple example?

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)

johnebaker wrote on 12/6/2012, 12:53 PM

Hi Terry

Hi Terry - thanks for trying that - however perhaps i was not clear enough in my explanation of the problem ie .

the bit where I said   . . . . more than 6 items to the movie menu page . . . .

To clarify I mean 7 or more movies in the project, chapter menus I do not have a problem with.

This is the movie menu page using Red Smoke

 

As you can see there are seven movies of which only the last four have chapters

This is the navigation structure   

 

The odd thing is I have tried the Clockwork menu again and now I only get  5 items on the first movie page and 2 on the second movie page as it should be ! ! ! !

Thanks again for testing this.

John

 

Last changed by johnebaker on 12/6/2012, 12:59 PM, changed a total of 3 times.

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

terrypin wrote on 12/6/2012, 2:16 PM

Hi John,

OK, understood.

I read this "Most of the DVD templates will allow up to 6 movies/chapters on one page - any more than 6 and a second page is created," as "...6 movies or chapters..." and just chose the latter as much easier to test!

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)