Does Sound Forge Have "On-Clip Gain Control" Like Audition?

ken-t wrote on 3/1/2018, 1:23 PM

I am trying out Sound Forge trial right now and hoping that it can do something that I really need, which is to visually adjust the amplitude of JUST a selected section of audio. Adobe Audition calls this "On-Clip Gain Control." The CC version calls the control a "heads-up display (HUD)."

What it does is allow you to drag a little knob that appears at the top of any selection of audio, and see the wave from raise or lower as you drag the knob left or right. Here is a quick video of it I just made in Jing: https://www.screencast.com/t/hfdLAL7DG

This is an incredible time-saving tool when editing a long audio file. But so far, the only way I can find to adjust the amplitude of a selected bit of audio in Sound Forge is like any other editor - after selecting the audio, you go to the menu and click "Process." Then you click "Volume." That brings up a control with a slider you can use to turn the selection up or down. But you can't seem what will happen to the wave form until AFTER you do it. It takes a very long time compared to using the on-clip "HUD" like in Audition.

Any chance there is a way to do this in SF? Or if not, is there another MAGIX product that can do it?

Thanks!

Comments

rraud wrote on 3/2/2018, 10:06 AM

Which SF version are you trying out, AS-12 (Audio Studio) or SF Pro-11 (Sound Forge Pro)? in SF Pro there are a number of quick and easy ways to change the volume of the file(s) or parts of it.

Sound Forge is a multi-channel editing and mastering application, Vegas OTOH, is multi-track along with video.

ken-t wrote on 3/2/2018, 10:51 AM

I believe it's AS-12, now that I look at it. I thought I could do a trial for SF Pro. I'll try that. BTW, Ironically, I've used Vegas Pro for all my video editing for the past 8 or 9 years - just not for audio stuff :-). And I am absolutely looking for an audio editor versus a DAW. I use Reaper for that. Thanks for the info.

rraud wrote on 3/2/2018, 3:35 PM

Magix had and I believe still has a deal going, where as if SF Pro 11 is purchased it will include SF Pro 12 when it's released. The AS-12 GUI is quite different from SF pro, and naturally does not have the advanced features, so if your accustomed to earlier versions of SF pro. SF Pro 12 should feel very familiar.

ken-t wrote on 3/2/2018, 6:13 PM

I just installed the trial version of SF Pro 11. I must say I like the simple uncluttered work space. But I still cannot see a way to adjust the amplitude of a selected section of audio quickly - no "on-clip" control like Audition. Am I Missing anything? Or is that just not something SF (even Pro) can do?

rraud wrote on 3/3/2018, 12:08 PM

- Select the waveform (or part of), and choose "Process> Volume".

- The modal 'Volume envelope' plug-in can be accessed though Favorites, or the chainer. By default, it is applied it to an existing chain or creates one.. The shortcut key is 'V' and the default envelope is applied at unity gain.

- The Graphic fade is also useful as is 'Fade in' & 'Fade out'. "Process> Fade"

- If you just need to adjust the playback volume without changing the soundcard, interface level or the files' amplitude, the 'Hardware meters' (View menu) have a volume control fader which can be docked. This has many of the other meter options, Layout, Type, Phase, Range, Mono compatibility, ect.

ken-t wrote on 3/3/2018, 4:12 PM

I found the Volume control in the FX Favorites menu (under Magix). And it's totally different from the control you get with Process/Volume. But even that is not giving me what I need. It does have a "real time" check box. But all that does is allow you to preview what it sounds like when you move the slider. That is not helpful. I need to SEE in real time what the waveform would look like in comparison to the rest of the audio and compared to the meters on the side of the display (so I don't clip). I also looked at the Volume envelope as you suggested. I'm familiar with using envelopes but that is also not what I need.I need to see the wave form move. I can't believe Adobe Audition is the only program that does this. It's astounding to me. Again - correct me if I'm wrong. Here is what I need: https://www.screencast.com/t/fQmqyJyStL0

rraud wrote on 3/4/2018, 10:37 AM

Unfortunately, SF Pro does not have anything like that AFAIK.. that feature does look handy. I used Audition way back when when it was Cool Edit Pro, but always preferred SF and Vegas.