Do not 'UPGRADE' Movie Studio if you have 'VEGAS Movie Studio 17.0'

irwin-arnstein wrote on 7/2/2022, 2:47 PM

I constantly got push notifications every time I use Vegas Movie Studio 17 to go to Movie Studio 22. The 'upgrade' is $69.99. You get all these wonderful plug ins worth over $1000. So finally I gave in when an update for Vegas Movie Studio 17 imediately caused me problems. I think the problems were how it uses GPU acceleration. I turned that off but don't do the update. Especially in the middle of a project. I thought I could add useful features to my project and help my students in audio/video editting. I am more than happy to show the email chain with magix should anyone doubt what I describe further.

I don't mind a new product or learning a new interface, but movie studio 22 is completely incompatible with your .vf files from Vegas Movie Studio. You will lose all your old work. Import and project and you get the video. No title track, no effects edit chains, nothing.

No where on their site or push notifications do they tell you of this incompatibility. Forget your .vf files.

They also provide no coversion path for the product they push, you buy, and can't use. I immediately unregistered my serial numbers and deleted a useless product.

I asked specific questions on what I would have to buy but there is no reasonable upgrade from vegas 17 to vegas pro. If you are going to push me onto another product then give me a price break on the new product. but the answer was always 'give us your purchase order number and we'll refund you your $70.

I told them my list of product upgrades are listed on their site since 2016 and that is a significant amount of revenue and I am sure I am not the only one who has been sold an unuseable product. I am sure 22 is fine, but I can't loose 8 years of work that I reuse in my own productions as well as those of my clients who want new ad content.

Never in my 20+ years in computer programming from engineer to engineering vice president and officer of the company have i provide and upgrade to a client where any byte was left behind. Nor have I pushed them to buy a product they can't use.

Nor did I force push notifications for the new product and a bad upgrade. Asked them to flip the bit saying this upgrade is available or that I should do it and have the system crash every 3rd render. It is wild speculation at least to imply that the update for 17 is to force you to buy another product, but that was where my path led. You make your own conclussions. Maybe it is a system incompatibility.

Buy a whole new product and not get an upgrade price rewarding 6 years of purchases (like soundforge and spectral layers 7) loyalty. Their attitude is to buy a new product when you have one that already works after deception from lack of information on compatibility problems between products. I checked every page of the website to see if I missed the incompatibility in some specification. There is none.

Even if you unregister your serial numbers meaning you can't use the product, tough, ferenghi rule 209 - once you have their money never give it back.

My advice to any Vegas movie studio 17.0 platinum user is to never do another update. I had a note to do so when I think one email was sent out (I think I got one but that is even questionable) about divergance. Stupidly I thought that would include me to a product that looked and acted like mine.

I have noted in my video notes file to never upgrade again. $70 is not a big deal and I am sure many would say that. And the purchase price of the Vegas Pro is absorbable. But the method to do so with a poor update and constant push notifications only reminds me of the precedent of Neville Chamberlin and we know how that worked out. Good thing to look up on the internet.

I rarely post or look at the forums because I know how to do this work and spend my time doing it. If there are issues I usually can figure them out with my decades of experience in software.

Point is if I take the time to post a warning about losing your work and being forced on to a new product then it is something to consider. I can go back to all my microsoft documents from day one.

Comments

CubeAce wrote on 7/2/2022, 3:17 PM

@irwin-arnstein

Hi.

If you wish to publish this on the Vegas forums then you need to do so on the vegascreatives.net forums and not here as we have been using your 'new version' for years as it is the 'Magix Movie Edit Pro' NLE rebranded.

Unfortunately, here you are preaching to the already converted so to speak and don't as such share your views on the product in question.

Unfortunately again you are already about eighteen months late to that party as it has been a raging debate there about all of this for some time.

While we do feel for such users as yourself you should check why this happened on the Vegas forums and join the long disgruntled list of other prior Vegas Movie Studio owners.

There was information on the product website although admittedly hard to find if you don't know your way around the Magix Website and may of us agree it was a very unwise move on behalf of Magix.

If on the other hand you do stick with your current purchase you are more than welcome to post questions here if you run into trouble using the software. We know the processing requirements are somewhat more rigorous than for the older versions of VMS but in truth if Vegas had continued with VMS, the computer specs would have also had to have been upgraded as well or risk being overtaken by competing software offering a more comprehensive editing experience. If you hold back the processing requirements of any NLE then eventually you get disgruntled customers anyway as they will not have the power in their systems to handle third party plugins.

Ray.