Disc won't play

Sunnylake wrote on 4/6/2017, 2:32 PM

I have Sony Sound Forge. I downloaded some songs into it (successfully) and they play wonderfully through my computer directly from Sound Forge. Then I saved the file, both as an MP3 and a WAV. Then I burned a disc and got a message that it burned with no errors. BUT, it won't play in my car, my wife's car or our home stereo system. I tried in MP3 and WAV. If I put the disc in my computer and use Windows Explorer to open the disc, it won't open. I know it's a simple matter - but I just can't figure it out. (I'm 81, but fairly good at this as I've burned discs before (with a different software) without problems. Any ideas? All suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Sunnylake

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johnebaker wrote on 4/6/2017, 3:03 PM

Hi

. . . . it won't play in my car, my wife's car or our home stereo system . . . . If I put the disc in my computer and use Windows Explorer to open the disc, it won't open

This would suggest the disc is either

  1. a bad disc, despite the burn with no errors

    or
     
  2. the disc was not closed - however Windows Explorer should be able to read an unclosed disc

Did you burn as Audio CD direct from Sound Forge?

If so what options did you select?

John EB

 

 

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Sunnylake wrote on 4/6/2017, 5:24 PM

John - Thanks for the reply. I tried this with four discs, all from a new box of Memorex 700MB discs, type CD-R. I seriously doubt that the discs are the issue, as I've already make some successful burnings from this box.

Yes, I burned it as an Audio CD direct from Sound Forge.

I did notice one ususual thing. To burn it CD I clicked on TOOLS and the drop down menu opened. The first choice is "Burn Track At Once". That was highlighted. The second choice is "Burn Disc At Once". That option was NOT highlighted. I'm wondering if I should have used Burn Disc at Once, but how can I do that if it isn't highlighted? I clicked on it, but it didn't do anything.

I've saved the music file as an MP3 and also as a WAV. Neither worked.

It's puzzling, isn't it?

You suggested that the disc may not have been closed. I don't know how to close the disc.

Sunnylake

 

 

Bob_Olhsson wrote on 4/6/2017, 9:49 PM

The optical systems of CD players​ wear out over time. CDrs are often the first disks that won't play because they have lower reflectivity. Optical recorders also wear out.

Sunnylake wrote on 4/6/2017, 9:55 PM

Yes, I've experienced that problem. However, for this particular issue, I found that by using Nero Essentials to burn the disc (in MP3 format) it will actually work....! So there's something about my Sony Sound Forge that isn't working (or it works but I haven't figured out why I'm having trouble). So at least I have a "workaround" method that works.

Thanks for your comment Bob.

Sunnylake

emmrecs wrote on 4/7/2017, 4:28 AM

@Sunnylake,

Yes, the option you need to be able to access is "Burn Disc at Once"; "Burn Track at Once" is for creating "data" CDs, often adding files to an existing disc, perhaps over a period of some time, which a computer can read but not a CD player because the track at once option does not include writing to the disc the PQ codes that your player reads in order to know exactly where each track starts and ends, how long it is, etc..

I don't own SoundForge so can't advise on how to access the option; I assume from what you write you can't simply click on it? The two "at Once" options should be mutually exclusive.

Jeff

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johnebaker wrote on 4/7/2017, 6:08 AM

Hi

. . . . there's something about my Sony Sound Forge that isn't working (or it works but I haven't figured out why I'm having trouble . . . .

Look up Burning CDs in the installed PDF manual - this details all you need to know.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Sunnylake wrote on 4/10/2017, 11:36 AM

John - (Been away for a few days so sorry for the delay in responding). I'll check out the PDF manual as you suggested. In the meantime, as I mentioned previously, I found that if use Nero Essentials to burn the music cd - and that is what I have done. But it would be nice to do it all on Sound Forge. I will try your suggestion later today.

I do appreciate your help - and the help of others. This is a good forum...!!!

 

Sunnylake (Jerry)

rraud wrote on 4/11/2017, 9:26 AM

If you have purchased SF pro, CD Architect is included and is easier/ better to burn Red Book compliant audio CDs. Though CDA does not support VST plug-ins, it's a minor inconvenience IMO, since most editing and optimization is done in the editing stage anyway and rendered as PCM (.wav) files prior to burning.

As was previously stated, Track at Once (TAO) CDs do not play on a lot of drives.

Sunnylake wrote on 4/12/2017, 5:55 PM

RRaud - Thanks for your input.

alan-alford wrote on 4/26/2017, 10:30 AM

Does CDA come with the consumer grade Sound Forge Audio 10? I'm currently using SF 8 and CDA 5, yet looking to upgrade. Please advise.

alan-alford wrote on 4/26/2017, 1:24 PM

Does CDA come with SF Pro 11?

rraud wrote on 5/2/2017, 9:28 AM

CDA is not included with Sound Forge Audio 10. I don't know if it's still included with SF Pro 11, on previous versions (SF10) it was a separate download & installation. AFAIK, the latest update is 5.2, so upgrading to SF11 would not make much economic sense if you already have CDA 5.0.

alan-alford wrote on 5/2/2017, 3:11 PM

The folks with Magix finally got back with me. It seems I have CDA 5.2, not 5.0 as stated before. I have been reassured that I can continue to use CDA 5.2 with an upgrade to SF11. As the company I work for begins to upgrade the O.S. for all in house computer, I'm concerned that SF 08 will begin to have compatibility issues.

Thank you,