Cannot find Circluar fade out/in in Movie Edit Pro 2013

lostinspace wrote on 6/16/2013, 6:37 AM

In 2012 I upgraded my Magix Movie Edit Pro 15 to the 2013 version. I now cannot find a fade which I used regularly in the earlier version. This fade was a simple round fade out from the full picture to nothing and then zoomed back in to the next full picture. The duration could be varied.
Does anyone know where to find this in the 2013 Version?
 

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johnebaker wrote on 6/16/2013, 8:03 AM

Hi

AFAICS that fade is no longer available in MEP 2013 (was not in MEP 17 either) - the nearest is the Circle fade however this is a cross fade and not through black.

In order to use the Circle fade through black you need to arrange the two objects on two seperate tracks as shown in the image and apply the Circle fade to the ends of the clips as shown - to alter the duration of the fade select each clip and drag the circular handle of the fade to the left or right as required.

 

Note -  once the fade has been applied to an object do not move the object onto the same track as the object you are fading from/to - the fade through black will be lost.

HTH

John

 

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terrypin wrote on 6/17/2013, 4:42 AM

Hi John,

 

Never tried any of those Effect Fades before. Darned if I can get Circles working. Am I doing this correctly?

1. Arrange on two tracks, with no transitions on either.

2, Drag the Circles template to each one, no particular order?

BTW, with Blobs, Brushes and Sonar I just got a plain fade (and a sound effect).

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terrypin wrote on 6/17/2013, 11:50 AM

Hi,

Obviously a built-in fade would be better, but it's not too difficult to roll your own:

 

Here's the result: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/CircleZoomDemo.mp4

Or from YouTube:

 

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johnebaker wrote on 6/17/2013, 4:15 PM

Hi Terry

That is the sequence I used.

You do have to be careful where on the objects you drop the transition - get in the wrong place and you get the fade at both ends of the object !!!

Your method is better for a perfect circular fade in/out - the Circular fade template does it as a series of concentric rings of differing transparency.

You can achieve the same effect with only one mask image placed as shown below.

 

The 1st and 4th keyframes have the same settings and the 2nd and 3rd the same settings

Cheers

John

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terrypin wrote on 6/18/2013, 6:14 AM

Hi John,

 

In fact most of those effects seem very eccentric. The normal approach of dropping the effect on the join rarely works. Very odd.

And deleting the (usually annoying) sound effect resets the video effect too! I have to reduce its voume to zero.

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Agreed, more elegant to use just one mask object!

But the problem with placing the mask below its target as you've done is that you get this result:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/CircleZoom2.mp4

You won't see it on playback unless you switch mode from H/W Accel to something else, such as Alternative mode 1. But the export will be wrong regardless.

 

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terrypin wrote on 6/18/2013, 1:33 PM

In 2012 I upgraded my Magix Movie Edit Pro 15 to the 2013 version. I now cannot find a fade which I used regularly in the earlier version. This fade was a simple round fade out from the full picture to nothing and then zoomed back in to the next full picture. The duration could be varied.
Does anyone know where to find this in the 2013 Version?
 

Are you sure? I've dusted off my MEP 15 Plus and cannot find that effect. The closest I can get are these two:

Fades > Iris > Round
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP15-Fades-Iris-Round.mp4

Fades > Iris > Circle 1
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP15-Fades-Iris-Circle1.mp4

The latter can be matched from the MEP 2013 buit in effect
Fades > Movement > Circular Fade
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP2013-Fades-Movement-CircularFade.mp4

The former, Round, and all the others in the Iris category, can be matched assuming you still have MEP 15 by copying the Iris folder across. On my XP PC that was from
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MAGIX\Movie_Edit_Pro_15_Plus\Plugins\Iris
to
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro 2013 Premium\Plugins\Iris


You can then use the Import tab to open that folder, which then automatically offers you the MEP 15 choices under the Fades tab, including Round.

 

That leaves the 'circle zoom out to all black plus circle zoom in from all black' effect unavailable as a built-in effect. If you do still have MEP 15 please let me know where it is!

Looking forward to some feedback.

 

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terrypin wrote on 6/22/2013, 10:32 AM

Did you lose interest?

 

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