@Jens-Wilbrandt, @CubeAce

Hi

The issue is when the mask is attached to an object it is not recognised as being a separate image, unlinking the mask from the object it is still not recognised as a separate object - this is a bug.

A workaround is:

1. Duplicate the object to which the mask is applied so you have one 'normal' and one blurred object - tracks 1 and 3 in image below
   
    
2. load the mask separately from the folder where it is located, I dragged it from Windows File Explorer to the timeline from default location
   
   C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Edit Pro Premium\VideoEffects\EffectAlphaMasks\HD
   
   Note Alpha effect is automatically applied.
    
3. Click the Alpha effect direction arrow, indicated by the yellow arrow in the image above, to the change direction if necessary to achieve the correct effect.
    
4. Select the mask and resize/move as required.

If you need the mask to move as the scene changes, see this tutorial - although for an older version of MEP the method still applies, ignore the Create a mask section - where I used an image you can use the MEP masks in the folder in 2 above.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Any idea when tracking stopped working for this?

I haven't used that for a long time.

Ray.

@johnebaker

Hi John EB,

It's worse in VPX13 (19.0.1.117 - I'm stuck there). I can't even load the mask. The selection is greyed out. Has this been resolved in a newer patch?

It works fine in VPX12.

Has anyone reported these bugs to Magix?

John CB

Thank you, both of you! I have just bought the 2022 Premium. The resize/reposition worked on Pro Edit Plus 2017, but there I had the problem that effects did not apply when exporting videos. Now I am just faced with a new problem - not easy. I have reported the problem to Magix in a support ticket.

Jens

@browj2

Hi John CB,

It works fine in VPX13 -> 19.0.1.123

DéDé.

@sasiuk

Hi Dédé,

Merci. I am relieved. However, can the mask be moved and resized or is there also the problem described above for MEP2022?

Thanks,

John CB

I have found a workaround. Instead of using "Size/Position/Rotation", it is possible to modify the effect mask by using "3D distortion" for resizing/repositioning ;-)

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Any idea when tracking stopped working for this? . . . .

Tracking still works in MEP 2022 and VPX 13 in a fashion, it looks a bug has been introduced as a result of the Anchor point being movable and defaulting to centre of the screen instead of the old way referencing the top left corner (0,0).

Leave the anchor point in the centre and the object being attached is offset - set the Anchor point to top left corner - the old 0,0 reference point, and the object tracks correctly.

Looks like maths for calculating the position of the object are not taking into account the anchor point not being at centre of the object.

Previous versions you set the offset from the object to be tracked using Size & Position and this was maintained during the tracking.

I will raise a ticket.

John EB

@browj2

Hi John CB,

However, can the mask be moved and resized or is there also the problem described above for MEP2022?

In current versions mask can't be moved or resized in both VPX13 and MEP2022.

DéDé.

@sasiuk

Hi Dédé,

Argh! Too many bugs.

Thanks for confirming.

John CB

@browj2

Hi John

. . . . I can't even load the mask. The selection is greyed out. Has this been resolved in a newer patch? . . . .

There is no specific mention in the VPX .121 and .123 patches of a fix for this particular issue - it may be a side effect of fixing something else.

John EB

@sasiuk @johnebaker @browj2 @Jens-Wilbrandt

Hi All.

I can get a mask to resize and position with size / position if I can get a key edit point started using the earlier work around. What I can't do is get it to track except manually.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Which workaround are you referring to?

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

The ability to place a key frame at the beginning of a clip when using the size / position effect. I know others used the resizing section but I used a rotation handle and reset it. That allowed me to place a key frame on the first frame. It has worked with the masks when I tried it but I then have to manually move the mask. I can't get it to track.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Should have asked at the same time, are you adding the mask through the effect dialog or dragging the mask file onto the timeline from File Explorer.

If through the effect, I cannot get it to be resized and maintain the size, whether grouped or ungrouped from the object connected to, with or without a keyframe in position, as soon as I attach the mask to the object again, and/or add the Chromakey effect the keyframe vanishes and the object gets resized to the same as the mask or vice versa.

The tracking feature works for me, however the offset of the rotation anchor point positioned to top left corner I mentioned has to be applied first, without the anchor point offset the object that is supposed to track is off the screen most of the time - I have filed a bug report.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Dragging onto the timeline.

Had not tried altering the anchor point.

I added chrome key first before altering the size position and hadn't tried at any point to attach the mask to the video clip with the chain link symbol, assuming that is what you mean.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

The problem is with putting a mask on a single object and applying an effect. The mask is added through the Effect upper right pop-down menu, not by dragging to the timeline. See the images from DéDé and me. The loaded mask is placed on track 2 or 3 (depending on whether or not AV is on one track or two) and is grouped with the selected object on track 1. The mask affects only effects selected in the keyframe area. The bug is that this mask cannot be moved or resized.

To see this in more detail, especially if you've never used this feature, see my tutorial:

John CB

@browj2

Hi John.

Thanks for the additional info.

I have only ever used the tracking option for text in the past when it last appeared to work. I had text on separate tracks but it still worked although I never found it to be 100% accurate. That may have been down to me not selecting an easy place within the frame for it to track. It may have worked like selecting a focus point on a camera and needs an area with sharp contrast for best results.

Ray.

@browj2

Hi John CB,

Argh! Too many bugs.

I agree with you

I had not seen this bug because I no longer use masks but formes tool since it was implemented on MEP and VPX (old VEGAS practice).

Example of multiple blurring.

https://www.magix.info/fr/forum/voir-tous-mes-masques-sur-plusieurs-pistes--1253368/#ca1579989

DéDé.

I have 21.0.1.85 and encountered this bug. Tried to do an update but have to pay (>$100). Is there a free patch for this? thanks

@tchai

I have 21.0.1.85

Could you please check that version number. MEP 2021 had 20.0.1.80 as the final version and MEP 2022's current version is 21.0.2.130.

Edit: Corrected MEP 2021's final version number.

@tchai

Hi

You are missing several patches the current patch v is 21.0.2.130 - did you try using Help, Update online to see the latest patch is available for you?

. . . .  but have to pay (>$100) . . . .

Do you mean your Update service has expired?

John EB
Forum Moderator