Always save at 256 bit rate

hernan65c wrote on 10/17/2022, 8:51 AM

When pressing the save button, soundforge does not respect the original format of the edited mp3 file, it always changes it to 256 bit rate.
It doesn't matter if the original file is at 44.1/128... or 44.1/196... or 44.1/320.
After modifying something on the original file by pressing the SAVE button, it does not keep the original audio format.
Before responding, please check what is detailed here to have a clear idea of the inconvenience.
This happens from version 10 to 15 (I don't know 16). Version 8 did it correctly.
All of these versions work fine with the "SAVE AS" option.
Using the SAVE AS option makes my work slower, I have to edit more than 2000 mp3 !!

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hernan65c wrote on 10/17/2022, 8:54 AM

Something else... I don't use version 8 because it doesn't support the new metadata formats.

PATIENT-X wrote on 10/17/2022, 10:19 AM

@hernan65c

Hello, welcome

Please do not create duplicate posts, I have removed your other post, please refer to this post for assistance.

Stephen

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rraud wrote on 10/17/2022, 10:45 AM

HI @hernan65c, it is a bad practice to re-encode lossy file types. If the original is an MP3. enable "Always proxy compressed formats" in the "Options> Preferences> General" and save as a PCM <.wav> file if any further editing is anticipated, Encode your end user MP3 when editing is totally complete and confirm 'Save metadata with fil; is enabled in the save window.
When Saving MP3s (or any other format) the next subsequent file 'Save' should have the same attributes.. It you need to split or join MP3s, there are third-party utilities available (like MP3 DirectCut) that do not re-encode, maintaining the original quality.

hernan65c wrote on 10/17/2022, 11:21 AM

Thank you... I ask you: You already tried opening a 44.1/320 mp3 file, modify anything in the audio and re-storing it with the option: SAVE... not the option SAVE AS?
Did the mp3 file keep the same format? 44.1/320?
Come back and tell me what happened? Thank you

hernan65c wrote on 10/17/2022, 11:26 AM

and if you could do it right....? same format and same parameters than the original? Thank again.

SP. wrote on 10/17/2022, 12:10 PM

Thank you... I ask you: You already tried opening a 44.1/320 mp3 file, modify anything in the audio and re-storing it with the option: SAVE... not the option SAVE AS?
Did the mp3 file keep the same format? 44.1/320?
Come back and tell me what happened? Thank you

I just tried it with two files and two different bit rates, opened the files, cut out about one minute, saved it and the files were overwritten and still have 44.1 kHz and 320 kBit/s or 192 kBit/s. Not sure why your files change the bit rate.

hernan65c wrote on 10/17/2022, 12:43 PM

Thank you very much for your clarification.. I will continue investing

SP. wrote on 10/17/2022, 12:46 PM

@hernan65c Have you tried to reset the program settings under the File menu?

rraud wrote on 10/17/2022, 1:15 PM

Upon closer examination @hernan65c, you are correct, when 'Save' is executed, an existing 320-44.1k MP3 does re-encode to 256kbs, which must have been the default. I experienced the same behavior in Sound Forge Pro 10, 11, 13 and 14. I suspect Pro 12 would be the same but I'm not sure about Audio Studio 12, which was unique (pros and cons).
However. my further tests reveled that Sound Forge 15 and 16 (both Pro and AS). maintain the original MP3 attributes.. As I recall, the MP3 encoder was changed. If you do not have SF-15 or 16, you can try out the trial version for 30 days.

Sorry, I was not aware of this behavior.. likely because I do not re-encode MP3 files which is counter-productive from a quality standpoint.

SP. wrote on 10/17/2022, 1:57 PM

The version I tested was Sound Forge Pro Suite 15 Build 161.