Hi John,

Thanks, but I think it's a bug or at least an illogical design flaw!

(A Star Trek fan after a dentist visit might call it a Caption Quirk   )

BUT .. I think it only occurs if the text duration is set to the same as the object, as it was in my case. Both were 3s long.

Hi,

I'm back from camping.

I tried this out on MEP2014 and cannot quite replicate this. It may be because I am using 29.97 fps. I used 5s clips. When I create the title on clip 1, it is actually 5s 005ms, but the title is 5s even. Zooming in, I see the small gap. Thus when I do title 2, it does it correctly. However, if I resize the title match the clip, Ctrl+T opens the title on clip 1 and does not create a new title.

Terry, is this what you mean? If so, then it is probably a bug or an illogical quirk, because I would have assumed that a new title would be created, not the previous one opened.

Or do you mean that Ctrl+T does not open the first title but creates a new one that then replaces the first title?

The same thing occurs in MEP2015 as in 2014.

I noticed something else interesting that I hadn't noticed before in MEP2014. If I create a title at the beginning of a clip and then slide it along a second or two to the right, then go to the beginning of the clip, nothing selected, create another title, the new title is placed on the same track automatically and fills the gap from the beginning of the clip to the beginning of the title that was moved to the right. There is no overlap of the titles. If I now delete the right hand title (the first one created) or move it to another track, the second one automatically increases in length to its normal size. Interesting.

However, in MEP2015, the second created title is placed on a different track. Thus title 1 was placed on track 3, moved to the right a couple of seconds, then title 2 with the cursor at the beginning of and nothing selected, is placed on track 4. Repeating the exercise puts the next one on track 5, etc. New feature in 2015?

Hi,

I'm back from camping.

 

Are you suffering significantly from PC and Magix withdrawal symptoms?

I tried this out on MEP2014 and cannot quite replicate this. It may be because I am using 29.97 fps. I used 5s clips. When I create the title on clip 1, it is actually 5s 005ms, but the title is 5s even. Zooming in, I see the small gap. Thus when I do title 2, it does it correctly. However, if I resize the title match the clip, Ctrl+T opens the title on clip 1 and does not create a new title.

Terry, is this what you mean? If so, then it is probably a bug or an illogical quirk, because I would have assumed that a new title would be created, not the previous one opened.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

I'm guessing that you're also right about the cause of the tiny gap issue. I bet if you change your project setting to 25 fps like mine it won't muddy the water.

Or do you mean that Ctrl+T does not open the first title but creates a new one that then replaces the first title?

The same thing occurs in MEP2015 as in 2014.

I think it's been like this over several (or all?) versions.

I noticed something else interesting that I hadn't noticed before in MEP2014. If I create a title at the beginning of a clip and then slide it along a second or two to the right, then go to the beginning of the clip, nothing selected, create another title, the new title is placed on the same track automatically and fills the gap from the beginning of the clip to the beginning of the title that was moved to the right. There is no overlap of the titles. If I now delete the right hand title (the first one created) or move it to another track, the second one automatically increases in length to its normal size. Interesting.

Indeed, very odd.

However, in MEP2015, the second created title is placed on a different track. Thus title 1 was placed on track 3, moved to the right a couple of seconds, then title 2 with the cursor at the beginning of and nothing selected, is placed on track 4. Repeating the exercise puts the next one on track 5, etc. New feature in 2015?

If so I'd have thought the coders might have spotted and corrected the Caption Quirk.

It's no big deal of course. It's just that this sort of detail affects me more than most because my macros get screwed when MEP doesn't behave consistently!

Hi Terry

I have tried your second scenario and get the same.

However if you move the cursor 1 frame to the right for the second object title - you get a title placed for the second object.

I think it is selecting the previous title because the cursor is on a boundary of the title object and you must the cursor in a free space.

Behaviour is the same in MEP 2015 in the scenario I previously answered and in the above scenario.

HTH

John EB

Hi John EB,

If there is no title with the first object, then with the playback marker at the beginning of the second object, the title is placed with the second object, not the first. If there is a title with the first object that stops a millisecond or more before the end of the first clip, the title is placed with the second clip. As Terry says, the problem only seems to arise when the first clip title extends to the end of the first object. I don't think that this is what should happen and Magix should probably be advised. One should not have to move 1 frame to the right or select the object in order to create a new title on the second object. I would be interested in their explanation.