2023 Version - Error message when loading MOV file

Eon-deKoker wrote on 3/5/2024, 8:37 AM

I get this error message when trying to load a MOV file from an iPhone: MXMPEG2 Error 0110: no media decoder found.

I found posts with the same error on other versions but not 2023. And I have not found a solution for this. Please assist.

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me_again wrote on 3/5/2024, 9:12 AM

@Eon-deKoker Hallo & welcome.

This topic covers the issue quite fully https://www.magix.info/us/forum/no-audio-for-mov-files--1334554/?page=1

If it doesn't help then we need further information - video details, computer spec etc. as detailed here https://www.magix.info/us/forum/please-do-the-following-before-posting-your-question--621831/

AndyW

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Eon-deKoker wrote on 3/5/2024, 9:27 AM

Thanks, however, the link you provided does not apply to the same issue or error message. It discussed a different problem regarding audio. As described in detail, this is not the issue I am having.

Also, it is a bit annoying for the error message to indicate: Unknown Error. So if the software is not able to determine the error, how must the user then resolve it?

Here is the media info:

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\eonde\Downloads\IMG_6459.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 6.81 MiB
Duration                                 : 15 s 348 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 3 724 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2024-03-05 09:49:38 UTC
xyz                                      : -25.7331+28.2511+1328.200/
Make                                     : Apple
Model                                    : iPhone XS

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : vp09
Codec ID                                 : vp09
Duration                                 : 15 s 282 ms
Bit rate                                 : 3 609 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.058
Stream size                              : 6.57 MiB (96%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 15 s 348 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 240 KiB (3%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.

 

SP. wrote on 3/5/2024, 9:48 AM

@Eon-deKoker Try another graphics hardware in the program settings (for example switch from GPU to iGPU) or re-encode the video with a free software like XMedia Recode to a format that can be imported.

me_again wrote on 3/5/2024, 9:50 AM

@Eon-deKoker

Sorry, I pasted the wrong link, it should be https://www.magix.info/us/forum/mxmpeg2-error-0110-no-media-decoder-found--1330504/#ca1897264 (I know that the topic refers to MEP 2021)

That said, I think the problem is indeed the VP09 codec; I'm sure others that have in depth knowledge of codecs etc. will correct me if I'm wrong and point you in the right direction.

AndyW

Edit - I have the same error message when trying to load a VP9 file into MS 2024

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johnebaker wrote on 3/5/2024, 10:47 AM

@Eon-deKoker

Hi

As @me_again commented the issue is with the VP09 codec, it is not supported by MMS 2023, you need to convert the video to a supported format, eg h.264 video and AAC audio using a video converter such as Handbrake or Avidemux.

Edit:

For future recordings on the iPhone, use h.264/AVC format recording, if storage space is limited, or the iPhone does not support h.264/AVC, use h.265/HEVC if available.

VP09 is a not a good format for editing due to its high compression.

HTH

John EB
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Eon-deKoker wrote on 3/5/2024, 12:32 PM

All I want to do is edit an iPhone video. If software cannot do something this basic for all the iPhone users then something is wrong. As SP proposed, I recoded the file with XMedia Recode to MP4 and this works fine. But why it this not supported by default?

FYI, the iPhone video settings was Most Compatible and shows H.264. The only other option was High Efficiency HEIF/HEVC.

CubeAce wrote on 3/5/2024, 1:11 PM

@Eon-deKoker

Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.

Apple developed the mov file wrapper for Apple and as with all their products would prefer to make anything they provide only fully compatible with other Apple products.

That is deliberate as they want an enclosed ecosystem and people to not just buy their phones but computers, iPads etc. File conversion is the only option if working on a Windows computer. Even Adobe Premier has to be run on an Apple machine to work with the files in their native form.

In the past Apple made their QuickTime player available for a brief while to Windows so that the mov file format could be edited but that has long past. Apple keeps changing the mov wrapper and codecs contained within them. They say it is done to make the ecosystem secure. It's just the way Apple works.

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johnebaker wrote on 3/5/2024, 1:40 PM

@Eon-deKoker

Hi

. . . . why it this not supported by default . . . .

You would have to ask Magix that question.

In terms of usage, despite being available for 10 years the codec, is not that popular, other than being used by some streaming services eg Youtube.

VP09 (VP9) is being replaced by the AV1 codec which is becoming more popular, and is supported by Movie Studio 2024.

. . . . iPhone video settings was Most Compatible and shows H.264. . . . .

Agreed, that is one of the two codecs supported by the iPhone XS the other being HEVC (h.265). VP09 is not an iPhone XS, or any other iPhone I know of, codec.

However, that is not what the MediaInfo data shows, additionally in the MediaInfo analysis this line:

Title: ISO Media file produced by Google Inc.

Suggest the video has been converted and is not the original iPhone file, which leads to the question of where has this file been, eg uploaded to, for it to be converted?

John EB

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Eon-deKoker wrote on 3/5/2024, 2:01 PM

Thanks John, I saw that too and wondered about it. I am using GooglePhotos to sync photos and videos. So I will pull of the file directly and see if its Google causing the issues. But now I have another issue and I posting that on a separate thread. The Magix software keeps on hanging . . . ..