Voiceover commentary in movie

rickduley wrote on 4/22/2024, 2:26 AM

I am using Movie Edit Pro Plus (19.0.1.31). I am writing an MTS video to DVD. The MTS file plays in Movie Player Classic with the expected audio - lip sync okay and all. In MEPP it plays with a voiceover describing the action as one might require for the visually inhibited - the characters' speech is still okay.

How do I get rid of the voiceover?

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Former user wrote on 4/22/2024, 5:39 AM

@rickduley Hi, got to be honest I don't work with audio so there might be an easier answer so until you get a better reply - If the voiceover is on a separate channel try right click the audio track - Audio Cleaning & choose a channel ,

johnebaker wrote on 4/22/2024, 9:45 AM

@rickduley, @Former user

Hi Rick

Is the source video from a disc or other source, which has a commentary track, or is the commentary an audio file or recording you have added to the project?

If a commentary you have added, then you can mute the track it is on.

If from a disc or other source and is multi audio stream, ie one stream is the players' dialogue, and the second stream is the commentary, the commentary track should be ignored by MEP.

Note: I am referring to 2 separate audio streams not the left/right channels of stereo audio.

You can check this by right-clicking the audio portion of the video clip on the timeline and select the Switch current audio track option indicated below by the magenta arrow, the set track should be Audio track 1.

To remove unwanted audio streams, then click the option Extract sound channels (red arrow), ungroup the audio from the video and delete the unwanted channel(s)

This image is from MMS 2023 however MEP is the same.

Note - if you want the commentary track to be on the disc and selectable, ie on/off you cannot do this in MEP, only Video Pro X has this feature.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Last changed by johnebaker on 4/22/2024, 9:49 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

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Former user wrote on 4/22/2024, 9:58 AM

@johnebaker Hi, why are your right click options in 2023 different to my options in 2024? I don't see the Switch current audio track option, is this media dependant, does that only show with media with multi audio streams?

johnebaker wrote on 4/22/2024, 10:01 AM

@Former user

Hi Gid

. . . . is this media dependant? . . . .

Only in so far as the video clip must have separate audio streams - this is the MediaInfo of the sample file I used- I have removed unnecessary data:

Multi audio stream audio

Complete name                            : W:\MAGIX\DVD_BD_Projects\Resources\test resources\Multi Audi Stream sample.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
.................
Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Stream size                              : 63.8 MiB (92%)

.................

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

..................

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
 

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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Former user wrote on 4/22/2024, 10:05 AM

@johnebaker Ah thanks, like i say i don't really have to deal with audio, it's rare I venture further than the volume button 😊

johnebaker wrote on 4/22/2024, 10:09 AM

@Former user

. . . . it's rare I venture further than the volume button . . . .

👍 😂😂

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

rickduley wrote on 4/23/2024, 5:09 PM

@rickduley, @Former user

Hi Rick

 

This image is from MMS 2023 however MEP is the same.

I cannot get that Screen. I don't have the audio line below the scene line.

 

 

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Rick Duley
North Perth,
Western Australia
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My machine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz   3.00 GHz; 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Edition    Windows 11 Pro; Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎3/‎04/‎2024 OS build    22621.3447
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Former user wrote on 4/23/2024, 5:47 PM

@rickduley You can right click on the video - Video/Audio on separate tracks,

There's an option in - File - Settings - Program (or click Y on the keyboard), I'd leave this permanently unticked then in the future your video & audio will always be on separate tracks,

rickduley wrote on 4/24/2024, 3:16 AM

@Gid

I'd leave this permanently unticked then in the future your video & audio will always be on separate tracks,

It IS permanently unticked.

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Rick Duley
North Perth,
Western Australia
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Edition    Windows 11 Pro; Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎3/‎04/‎2024 OS build    22621.3447
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0

emmrecs wrote on 4/24/2024, 4:54 AM

@rickduley

Hi Rick,

Can you answer the questions that @johnebaker asked in his first reply, please? We need to know a lot more about the source of the file(s) you are trying to use.

To help us, and you, please also provide a MediaInfo analysis of your .MTS file. If you're not sure how to do this please read and follow this tutorial. Thank you.

Jeff
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browj2 wrote on 4/24/2024, 5:37 AM

@rickduley

Hi,

I expect that you already have the video on the timeline. Click on it, do Ctrl+H, and you'll get video/audio on separate tracks, but joined.

We still need to see the details from MediaInfo.

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rickduley wrote on 4/25/2024, 5:22 PM
Response to John Baker's questions
Is the source video from a disc or other source, which has a commentary track, or is the commentary an audio file or recording you have added to the project?

I recorded the file from free-to-air. You can download it from: https://1drv.ms/v/c/bb228147f3dd175d/EYP_T79NlxFAoJV02fB1AdwBPM2k2RmvhbETTgHdmz4vGQ?e=jKfxsi

If a commentary you have added, then you can mute the track it is on.

I have not added any commentary.

If from a disc or other source and is multi audio stream, ie one stream is the players' dialogue, and the second stream is the commentary, the commentary track should be ignored by MEP.

It isn't. Both MEP and Video Easy keep the commentary.

Note: I am referring to 2 separate audio streams not the left/right channels of stereo audio.

MediaInfo report:

General
ID                                       : 800 (0x320)
Complete name                            : J:\Movie Archive\The Shiralee\Shiralee_.mts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 2.83 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 44 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 2 465 kb/s

Video
ID                                       : 164 (0xA4)
Menu ID                                  : 804 (0x324)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@Main
Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                     : Variable
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 2 h 44 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 2 098 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 812 kb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Active Format Description                : Full frame 16:9 image
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.202
Time code of first frame                 : 10:27:48:01
Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed                         : Open
Stream size                              : 2.41 GiB (85%)

Audio #1
ID                                       : 87 (0x57)
Menu ID                                  : 804 (0x324)
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 2
Codec ID                                 : 3
Duration                                 : 2 h 44 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -424 ms
Stream size                              : 151 MiB (5%)
Language                                 : English

Audio #2
ID                                       : 89 (0x59)
Menu ID                                  : 804 (0x324)
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 2
Codec ID                                 : 3
Duration                                 : 2 h 44 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -424 ms
Stream size                              : 151 MiB (5%)
Language                                 : English
Language, more info                      : Visual impaired commentary
Editorial classification                 : Visual impaired commentary
Mix type                                 : Independent

Text
ID                                       : 45 (0x2D)-801
Menu ID                                  : 804 (0x324)
Format                                   : Teletext Subtitle
Language                                 : English

Menu
ID                                       : 1033 (0x409)
Menu ID                                  : 804 (0x324)
Format                                   : Teletext Subtitle / MPEG Audio / MPEG Audio / MPEG Video /  /
Duration                                 : 2 h 44 min
List                                     : 45 (0x2D)-801 (Teletext Subtitle, en) / 87 (0x57) (MPEG Audio, English) / 89 (0x59) (MPEG Audio, English) / 164 (0xA4) (MPEG Video) / 7000 (0x1B58) () / 7804 (0x1E7C) ()
Language                                 : English / English / English

 

You can check this by right-clicking the audio portion of the video clip on the timeline and select the Switch current audio track option indicated below by the magenta arrow, the set track should be Audio track 1.

I don't have an Audio Track.

To remove unwanted audio streams, then click the option Extract sound channels (red arrow), ungroup the audio from the video and delete the unwanted channel(s)

This image is from MMS 2023 however MEP is the same.

Note - if you want the commentary track to be on the disc and selectable, ie on/off you cannot do this in MEP, only Video Pro X has this feature.

John EB
Forum Moderator

 

Last changed by emmrecs on 4/26/2024, 4:04 AM, changed a total of 3 times.

Reason: To correct formatting

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Rick Duley
North Perth,
Western Australia
--------------------------------------------

My machine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8500 CPU @ 3.00GHz   3.00 GHz; 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Edition    Windows 11 Pro; Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎3/‎04/‎2024 OS build    22621.3447
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22688.1000.0