Is it possible to install version 2024 and keep version 2023 on the same machine? If positive, how do I do it?
thanks!
Hi Roberto.
Assuming you have bought a new full copy of the program and not paid for an upgrade which would be a replacement copy of the program, you would need to make a dual booted system. In other words two separate copies of Windows you can switch between on startup of your computer, or one installer will override and remove a previously installed version.
You will also find that if you deregister your old copies of the program at any time after installing an upgrade that the old copies of the program will disappear from your Magix account.
So nothing is impossible but probably impractical and there is little reason to keep an older version running when generationally they are close apart as differences in capabilities will be much less than going between two programs five generations apart.
If you are thinking a newer copy will run better than your current copy of the program, unless you have quite a well specced machine, it probably won't.
Ray.
See: I have plenty of reasons to maintain 2 versions: bugs. In this situation, I would use the previous version (or downgrade if possible), so as not to be so harmed. (Note that to uninstall a version and install the previous one, the customer still suffers the loss of at least 1 hour) Since I started this forum when I acquired version 2023, I have expressed how important it is to know about the routines that have bugs , to precisely get around them. I believe this is the only form of protection for the customer!
When I used the extinct Vegas Movie Studio, I kept the previous "files" just to downgrade or in this case
possible disc formatting problems, etc... But obtaining a separate file for downgrade in Magix Movie Studio seems impossible to me! (If possible, let me know how to do it!)
OK.
Short answer It is not possible without a dual boot system to have recent versions of the program on the same computer. Much older versions do not run on Windows 10 or 11.
It is however still possible to have multiple versions of Vegas programs on the same computer but may also suffer from not being compliant with current Windows builds. I notice older versions of Vegas programs not working with Windows 11.
Ray.
When I went to test version 2024, the installer deleted the 2023 version that I had installed! This made me unhappy to know that I would have to install version 2023. When I reinstalled, he asked if I would like to update to the latest version (2023). Why does she ask this if I had the latest version installed? Magix could instrument the installer with AI to remedy issues like this since programmers don't!
Hi,
Why does she ask this if I had the latest version installed? Magix could instrument the installer with AI to remedy issues like this since programmers don't!
Don't expect too much. The last install of the full program for 2023 probably does not contain the last patch. The program detects this and asks if you want to install it.
One way around avoiding uninstalling the last version, is to upgrade to Suite if you have Platinum, or Platinum if you have Suite. I had 2023 Suite but upgraded to 2024 Platinum. Platinum did not uninstall Suite, so I have both.
Try this with the trial version.
Or, you can upgrade to VPX and keep MMS2023.
John CB
As you have found, installing a newer version of Movie Studio will now always uninstall the older version. Yes, it is not ideal but that is what Magix has decided should be the situation.
However, you should follow @browj2's advice! I too have MMS 2023 Suite and MMS 2024 Premium installed on this computer and both accessible.
Jeff
Forum Moderator
I only Upgrade, apart from VPX14 I don't remmber whe I bought a new full version, I have 2023 Platinum & 2024 Suite installed
@Former user
Thanks Gid.
Never realised this was possible.
Ray.
Hi,
In the MMS 2024 Platinum test version, I was unable to evaluate whether there was a real improvement in rendering compared to the my version Platinum 2023! I only saw visual improvement! In this sense, did you who have version 2024 notice an effective improvement?
I tested version of the VPX15 (I have 8GB) and also in rendering I was unable to evaluate due to the restriction of the test version. (I liked the features of this version, greater control over the project, such as accuracy over frame resources, etc...)
Do you think I can work with 8GB on the VPX15?
(I have notebooks with Dell i7, limited to 8GB Note here that my videos do not require more than 15 minutes and are aimed at tutorials, manuals)
Thanks!
Hi Roberto.
The minimum specs page for VPX15 states a minimum of 16GB ram as well as an Intel Graphics HD 620 or higher internal GPU and an additional nvidia or AMD graphics card, preferably an nvidia card with at least 4GB of vram.
Although the Magix Movie Studio pages do not state the same I would personally take the VPX guidelines as more accurate if you are working with MP4 or mov files IMHO.
But more depends on what you edit and how you are editing. The length of the project will not effect the project requirements as much as the resolutions you work at and the amount of effects, sound tracks, and things like titling that you use. Titling and additional soundtracks can make a big difference to ram requirements as can a lot of the third party effects.
Most of my own videos are between ten to fifteen minutes but I can use up 28GBs of ram easily but I often use a lot of titling and sound track as well as effects.
Your system will never show a topping out of ram as there is always an amount left in reserve to keep the operating system working but in Task manager you can see the amount of ram that shows as 'committed' and that should never really exceed the amount of physical ram you have (The 'in use' plus the 'Cashed' amount shown) in my opinion. Not that the system or program will crash but data will get put onto the hard drive instead of loading to ram, slowing down the whole program.
Like I said in your first post, do you really need to upgrade? Don't ever expect an upgrade to run better than an older version if you are still running an older system. It might in a few instances depending on the workload but in general I find it doesn't.
As far as my own personal view, there are a few reasons to upgrade.
Sometimes an offer of third party effects I know I could use may be tempting but only if I think my current system will be able to cope with the base program and the demands of the third party effects.
I have finally upgraded my computer and feel I could benefit from better performance an newer copy of the program should give me.
I have a new camera and the files are not supported by my older program. This will inevitably also men upgrading my present computer.
So far for the third reason I have had to do that three times since Windows 98 came out but building my own computer has meant I have been able to upgrade parts bit by bit and have managed to spread the cost over more time.
Ray.
In the MMS 2024 Platinum test version, I was unable to evaluate whether there was a real improvement in rendering compared to the my version Platinum 2023! I only saw visual improvement! In this sense, did you who have version 2024 notice an effective improvement?
No improvement in rendering speed that I can tell. Unless there are things under the hood that have changed/bug fixes, all they've done is tart up (and made worse) the interface. Most buttons/icons are now smaller and harder to "hit". Looks cool though. 😎
Hi Al.
I forgot that bit.
I have never experienced an improvement in render speeds with a newer version. Then again I've never had the latest hardware to go with it.
The speed differences quoted if you look closely enough through all the associated blurb nearly always comes down to a specific hardware setup and file type used in their testing. Often it is buried in small print at the base of an image somewhere.
Seldom does it come from just the program. Newer versions tend to be released to keep up with newer components and the need for a few people to edit at higher resolutions.
I don't blame the developers, it's a part of marketing to show off what is possible and to not delve too deep into the downside of things.
This is not just a Magix thing. You can find similar claims on pretty much all video editing software sites.
Ray.
Is it best to remove Movie Studio 2023 BEFORE installing Movie Studio 2024 Premium OR can I remove 2023 after putting 2024 on computer? Right now 2024 is not accepting serial number to activate software.
As indicated by earlier posts to this thread, if you are upgrading from MMS 2023 to the same edition of MMS 2024 (e.g., from 2023 Premium to 2024 Premium) the new version will automatically uninstall the older one before it installs the new.
OTOH, if you are upgrading to a different edition (as I stated earlier, I have 2023 Suite and 2024 Platinum) the older version and the newer will happily coexist.
So, in your case, if you are moving from 2023 Premium to 2024 Premium the uninstall of 2023 should be automatic, you need to do nothing.
However, I wonder, since you say the serial number is not being accepted, whether you have actually upgraded to 2024 (i.e., you have bought a new serial key) or whether you are attempting to run the 2024 version with your 2023 serial key? If so, that will not work.
So, please tell us exactly which edition of 2023 you have currently and which edition of 2024 you are trying to activate and whether you have bought the upgrade to 2024. Thank you.
One other thought: if you have bought the upgrade from 2023 to 2024 ensure you are attempting to install and activate whichever edition you have actually paid for. Each serial key is linked to one edition; you cannot use a "Premium" key to activate a "Suite" edition.
Jeff
Forum Moderator