@Daxton-Eakins

HI

. . . . . I was just wondering if there was any way to make the program (Movie Studio 2024 platinum) run faster since it seems that the ram usage is quite limited. . . . .

In addition to @CubeAce comment above, a few other points to note are:

• The program does not load the source video etc into RAM, loading/processing/outputting frames on demand via a cache file.
   
• Harware acceleration (HWA),is only available for specific video formats ie h.264/AVC, h.265/HEVC and AV1 and requires using an appropriate GPU with a video decoding/encoding 'module', eq Intel integrated GPU or a Nvidia GPU supporting NVENC, and one of the AMD GPU's which can HWA decoding/encoding of the above formats, eg the RX 7900 XTX, RX 6900 XT, RX 5700 XT, however their performance is variable depending on the video format and settings used in the export dialog.
   
• All other video formats and images may be processed using the CPU and/or GPU, however encoding will be done using the CPU.
   
• Export times will depend on the video format/resolution - eg 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 exporting as AV1 or HEVC require significantly more 'horsepower' than FullHd 1920 x 1080 AV1, HEVC or 4KUHD h.264/AVC, which in themselves require more 'horsepower' than FullHD h.264/AVC encoded.
   
• However - certain effects applied to the video formats stated above are processed using the CPU and are not HWA on the GPU's.

John EB
Forum Moderator

@Daxton-Eakins

The amount of RAM (within reason) will have no bearing on encoding speed. Encoding/"crunching" can only be done by the CPU or GPU.

What do you mean by "run faster"? Timeline response or export/encoding speed?

What source files are you working with and what are you exporting to?

In Program Settings>Device Options tab, try setting the 3 Hardware Accel droplists to your GPU.

Do you have "Hardware encoding" shown at the top of the export dialogue box?

@johnebaker

and one of the AMD GPU's which can HWA decoding/encoding of the above formats, eg the RX 7900 XTX, RX 6900 XT, RX 5700 XT

Does that list include the OP's CPU?

@AAProds

Hi Al.

The Ryzen 7 5800x has no inboard GPU and the rx 6700xt GPU supports H264, H265, and AV1 decoding but only H264 and H265 encoding.

Ray.

That is a serious graphics card and system overall; there is something fundamentally wrong here. That should go pretty well.

@AAProds, @Daxton-Eakins

Hi Al

The list I was looked at did not include the RX 6700 XT GPU, it did mention the 6900 which is the same family and as @CubeAce has commented can HWA export to h.264/AVC and h.265/HEVC

. . . . there is something fundamentally wrong here . . . .

Not necesserily - it all depends on what meant by 'make the program run faster' and at what stage 'it's not using my dedicated gpu' is referring to, and the items I mentioned in bullet points 2 to 4 of my previous comment.

Additionally, the Program settings, Device options Import, Processing and Export options should be set to the RX 6700 XT by default, as this is the only supported GPU in the system, and the GPU internal settings, have not been tweaked for gaming, which may have a detrimental effect on rendering (Processing).

If the 'issue' is with exporting then we need more information:

• the source video format/resolution(s) and whether Constant or variable framerate
• the video export format preset being used, if any of the settings have been changed
• what effects have been added to the video on the timeline.
• the export time taken with respect to the runtime length of the project.

John EB

I have the RX 6700XT GPU. Here is a screenshot of timeline playback. Included is MediaInfo of the video being played back.

@Reyfox

Hi

The RX 6700 charts definitely show the video hardware module is being used.

What is export time for the Magix demo project, I know it is a low resolution project 🙁, using the MP4 FullHD 1920x1080 25 fps preset with no changes to any of the presets settings, file name excepted, as shown below?

On my laptop using the UHD 630 it takes 45 secs, and with the RTX 2060 it takes 20 secs.

Comment modified for clarification 3rd May 2024

John EB

@johnebaker

You mean the demo of the bike messenger? Exported to MP4 1920x1080. Screenshot is while it is exporting. GPU usage did reach a high of 66%.

Time of export was 18 seconds.

@Reyfox

Hi

Thanks for testing and the export time, gives me a baseline for further testing.

John EB

@johnebaker no problem!

@johnebaker @Reyfox Hi, where is the 'demo of the bike messenger' ? I'm just curious to try it.

@Former user

Hi Gid.

I just typed Magix Demo into the search bar and for me the files came up on my K drive. It only took a few seconds to find. It doesn't show the MVP file though so just get Windows to show you the location of any of the files it does find and you will find the MVP file there as well.

Ray.

@Former user and @CubeAce, it is located here on the C: drive.

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Studio Suite Content\_Demo

You can look for this file: _Demo.MVP

@CubeAce Thanks, my search is taking quite a bit longer 😒 I haven't looked at those demo vids for many many moons,

Btw I didn't realise you meant my PC search, I typed into the forum search Magix Demo Doh! 🤦‍♂️😂

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Found it.

The same for me, 18secs. I've no integrated graphics. (Video Encode is mainly the Geforce screen capture recording, turning it off takes 1sec off the export time)

@johnebaker

Greetings John, I don't know if you want this test done by others; please ignore if not.

Intel UHD 770 - 28 seconds Nvidia RTX 4060 - 12 seconds

AndyW

@Former user, @me_again,

Hi Gid, Andy

Thanks for testing and the results.

When I get chance I will draw up a table and post it as a sticky so other users can use it as a reference.

John EB

What bitrate are you guys exporting with?

@AAProds

Hi Al.

Good question assuming they are exporting to MP4. If the default setting for MP4 is used from the export options and you change it to 1920 x 1080, that can cause an error to come up telling you to update your graphics driver and that HWA has been turned off if using an nvidia GPU. Yet use the standard preset for 1920 x 1080 at 25fps in the MP4 drop-down menu and it runs without incident. Intel GPU exporting is not effected using the project settings but just changing the resolution.

HEVC exporting is actually faster rendering that project than using MP4.

Ray.

@AAProds I didn't change anything from the options that are given when Export as MPEG is chosen. I didn't open Advanced. Whether these are the default for everyone opening that project or not I don't know. I simply clicked export as MPEG, checked the destination folder was where I wanted & clicked OK to export.

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Changing the project & export to 1920x1080 added a second or two to the export time.

Changing just the export to 1920x1080 (leaving the project at 512x288) also only added a second or two to the export time

@Former user

Hi Gid.

@johnebaker was quoting exporting to 1920 x 1080. Whether he did or not I don't know.

Ray.

What is export time for the Magix demo project, I know it is a low resolution project 🙁, to MP4 FullHD 1920x1080 25 fps at default settings?

On my laptop using the UHD 630 it takes 45 secs, and with the RTX 2060 it takes 20 secs.

John EB

@CubeAce Hi, yes he did, I missed that bit, Doh! @Reyfox also mentioned it in the comment below his, I think I got lost trying to find that demo project & forgot or just didn't take it in 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Choosing this option I get pretty much the same export times.