Project Too Long For DVD

lynns wrote on 6/16/2014, 8:01 PM

As you should be able to see by the screen capture, this is what keeps appearing for a DVD I'm trying to burn for a client. (After this one, I have 23 more DVDs to burn!) Anyway, I've gone to encoder settings and sellected the longest playback time (lowest quality) and it says there's enough room on the DVD until it's almost all the way done burning, then when it's getting close to being done, this window pops up: 

 

Thank you for all or any help you can offer! I really appreciate the responses. 

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johnebaker wrote on 6/16/2014, 9:25 PM

Hi

Standard DVD's hold approx 2 hours of video. 

If the project is longer than 2 hours then you need to cut down the quality as you have done.

However even at the lowest qulity setting the project looks like it is too long to fit on a standard DVD and the quality my be too poor to meet your clients needs.

You have two options in this case:

1.   reduce the length of the movie to less than 2 hours

2.   use a Dual Layer DVD - this option does require that your DVD writer supports DL discs.

HTH

John

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Former user wrote on 6/16/2014, 9:55 PM

Hello Lynns:

Just to add my two cents to John's excellent advice on dual-layer discs: Mitsubishi Verbatim DVDs are widely recognized as the leader in the industry.  These discs have 95 percent to 100 percent burn reliability, saving money in the long run even if the price per unit is generally higher than other discs.  These are the only brand of discs that I trust, and have been using them for many years.  No, I do not work for the company. <lol>

Good luck and happy burning...

Griff

lynns wrote on 6/21/2014, 10:13 AM

I might take the advice from you two at some other point. (Thank you for your advice! I had heard of those DVDs before…) However now, I’ve taken away the extra project completely that I had added onto the menu that had originally caused the amount of space issue, yet it STILL states that there’s not enough room when before adding that extra project, I had burned several already and had worked fine, without any problems or errors. So basically Magix is now contradicting itself.
My only thought so far is that there could somehow still possibly be a ghost file that exists of that project that was causing the DVD to run out of space, even though I already deleted the folder (a new movie within the active project) on the timeline that I could see.
If that doesn’t make any sense to you, please ask me to clarify myself. Sometimes I can do a pretty bad job explain myself. :)

Former user wrote on 6/21/2014, 12:57 PM

Hi Lynns:

No, I get the gist of your explanation fairly well.  Sometimes there is not an obvious reason as to why certain software suddenly begins to exhibit whacky behavior. 

Have you backed up your project and performed a reinstallation of Video Pro?  I have had a few problems with this and similar programs in the past, and have had a high level of success once I'd done that.  It can't hurt so long as you back up your project.

Give it a go and let us know if it straightens out your issue.

Griff 

lynns wrote on 6/23/2014, 9:40 AM

Here is the error that keeps popping up- just to show you what it says exactly.

Former user wrote on 6/23/2014, 12:24 PM

Hello Lynns:

May I ask what are your system specs and Operating System?  (Memory, hard drive capacity, etc.).  It may be a problem with your DVD burner.  These issues are not uncommon with certain computers.

Griff

lynns wrote on 6/23/2014, 1:58 PM

Windows 8.1 Pro, Intel Core i7, RAM 8 GB, 64 bit operating system, and this certain system (laptop) came with 1 TB of space. (Thank you again for all of your help and suggestions.)

Former user wrote on 6/23/2014, 2:49 PM

Hi Lynns:

Well, your described specs are certainly more than enough to accommodate any video or audio project. 

The only logical explanation (at least to me) is that the software, either in conjunction with some hardware element in your laptop, or perhaps in and of itself might be amiss.  Very hard to deduce from afar.  If I were you, I'd set about backing up my project files (as I've already mentioned) and perform an uninstall/reinstall.  That way you will be in a position to rule out a few variables (mainly with Video Pro X).  Sometimes, based upon my own experience, a host of intangible software-related issues are often resolved.  I know it's a pain in the rear, but it's worth a shot.

Take care.

Griff

lynns wrote on 6/24/2014, 10:30 AM

This may be a somewhat dumb question to ask, but how would I back up all of my projects? I just have so many... Or would I need to? It wouldn't work to copy and paste all of my projects to another folder while re-installing Video Pro X4?

Former user wrote on 6/24/2014, 12:01 PM

Hi Lynns:

I'm sure Video Pro X has a folder that saves of all your projects' work,  I would simply navigate to that "saved" folder and either copy/paste it to another empty folder, or drag the entire contents of that folder to another location for safe-keeping, so as not to accidently erase all of your hard work.  Since you have a fairly hefty hard drive, it should not present too much of a problem.

Let me know how it all turns out.

Take care and good luck.

Griff

Scenestealer wrote on 6/25/2014, 5:42 PM

Hi

How did you remove the extra project? Did you just remove the chapter in the burn menu leaving the footage still in the project? Or did you remove the footge in the timeline and not adjust the blue range duration (above the timeline) to the new movie length? Or are there still 2 movie tabs with material showing in the project timeline? Or are you choosing "Use All" when you are prompted on subsequent burns as this will include all the footage from the original failed burn. Use "Encode All".

Ss

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lynns wrote on 6/26/2014, 7:48 PM

@nycgriff, 

I uninstalled, then reinstalled as instructed, and the same thing is happening as it has. However I erased some backup files from the disk images, and that re-encoded the entire DVD, which I thought might help. Apparently it didn’t do anything though. Magix is still contradicting itself over and over again. Once again, thank you for all the help you've been offering. This is getting quite furstrating, but it's easier with other's help!

lynns wrote on 6/26/2014, 7:51 PM

Here's yet another image of Magix contradicting itself by saying there is enough room- (which there is because I've burned the exact same amount of things on the same type of DVD multible times and everything burned perfectly. It even says the bit rate doesn't need to be adjusted because there are 'X' ammount of megabites left on the disc, which is true! Yet every time I've burned it in the last week or so, it says that the project requires more free disc space.

lynns wrote on 6/26/2014, 8:13 PM

@scenestealer, 

I removed a whole tab (new movie within the project). I’ve used encode all multiple times. One of the most frustrating matters of this error is the fact that I burned several DVD drafts last week with the exact same amount of video that I still have now, yet it worked fine then. All I know is that for some reason, Magix is saying I don’t have enough space in the disc when I know there is enough. And something at some point had to trigger that. Thank you for asking these questions, I'm really getting past my deadline now for my client and everyone else that ordered these DVDs, so I need all the possible help I can get. Thank you.

Scenestealer wrote on 6/27/2014, 6:25 AM

Hi Lynns

A couple of things:-

I notice in your screen shot of the MPEG encoder settings you have "Smart render" ticked which will mean that theoretically, if you project material is already MPEG2 DVD then it will attempt to not render a new file for any clips that are already suitable for the DVD in which case it may not make any difference where you put the slider.

To see what it is going to smart render - click on the "Smart render info" button at the bottom of the settings window and see what proportion of the movie will be rendered and what will be smart rendered. If it is saying a large amount will be smart rendered then untick the setting and try again.

Also - the used space indicator in the Burning window is only an estimate and the actual render could easily use up the 200MB, filling up the disc, so you need to get that space indicator down a bit.

What is the specification - codec and bitrate of your original material in the timeline and what are your project movie settings set at?

Ss

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lynns wrote on 7/7/2014, 12:32 PM

Hi, I know it’s been a while since I gave any updates. I finally came up with an idea that might possibly work. I’m exporting both files in the project so that I can re-place the newly exported versions into a new timeline, and then try burning it that way. And if not, I’ll still have the digital verions of the project exported, and that’s better than nothing! Anyway, I exported one successfully, but of course, I always have troubles, so now I can’t get the second one exported. I’ve tried multiple times with different file formats, etc. And nothing seems to be able to fully export it successfully without stopping after only a few minutes of exporting. Any suggestions? (I can’t believe all the troubles I’ve been having with this single project!