Hi John.

Thank you for your answer.

I put the system information in my signature.

Are the graphics card/integrated GPU drivers up to date?

Yes, I updated them but I stil have the same issue.

How much free space is there on the C: drive? 256GB

A screen shot of the Program settings, Device options tab  would help.

Do you mean the Program settings of Magix Studio?If yes, which ones? Do you mean a screenshot of the Device Manager settings in Windows?

Here is the MediaInfo. I made this a .mp4 to analyse it. But the issue happens when I work in the project file matching the audio to the video.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\jasmi\Desktop\Signet Ring Simple.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1)
File size                                : 2.58 GiB
Duration                                 : 31 min 7 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 11.9 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=25
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 31 min 7 s
Bit rate                                 : 11.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.225
Stream size                              : 2.54 GiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 31 min 7 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 35.6 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC

Thank you!!

@jeesa2

Hi

Thanks for the info, we also need the program ersion number as found under Help, About

. . . . I made this a .mp4 to analyse it . . . .

Can you post an analysis of the original file you are importing please - changing it to mp4 may have re-encoded it, we need to know the original codecs and other data which may relevant to determine if this is causing the issue.

John EB

Hi John.

The only info I got is the following:

General
Complete name                            : D:\ONLINE COURSES 2023\2pp with audio\Signet Ring heart.MVP
File size                                : 4.58 MiB

It is the .MVP file I am working with in Magix.

Program Version:

Thank you!!

@jeesa2

What John was asking for was a MediaInfo analysis of the actual video file that is on your timeline In MEP 2023, not the MVP (Magix Project) file.

Jeff
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@jeesa2

Hi

Thanks for the program version

. . . . I made this a .mp4 to analyse it . . . .

Perhaps I was not clear enough,

From the MediaInfo data you posted above:

Complete name                            : C:\Users\jasmi\Desktop\Signet Ring Simple.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1)
Encoded date                             : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-02-15 21:19:15 UTC

Suggests this video file is an export from Movie Studio 2023.

The MediaInfo needed is that of the original video file recorded by the camera or phone.

. . . . It is the .MVP file I am working with in Magix. . . . .

This is the project file that contains all the information about what is on the timeline in the program and the editing and effects used. It does not contain any video.

. . . . . the wave form display does not match audio anymore . . . .

Do you mean the audio does not match the lip movements, ie it goes out of synchronisation?

John EB

Hi John.

Thank you for your answer.

. . . . . the wave form display does not match audio anymore . . . .Do you mean the audio does not match the lip movements, ie it goes out of synchronisation?

The audio is an extra video that has been recorded using OBS. It is also an .mp4. I only keep the audio itself and turn on the wave display so I know where to cut. The wave display does not match the voice or audio which makes it improssible to cut the audio correctly and match it to the video.

I hope this makes sense.

Here is the info of one of the original sample videos I use to cut the final video:

General
Complete name                
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   2007.09 (qt  /CAEP)
File size                                : 976 MiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 57 s
Overall bit rate                         : 22.9 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Encoded date                             : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Constrained Baseline@L5
Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=12
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 57 s
Bit rate                                 : 21.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Original height                          : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.412
Stream size                              : 911 MiB (93%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Gamma                                    : 2.200
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : sowt
Duration                                 : 5 min 57 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 65.4 MiB (7%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2023-06-01 09:29:53 UTC

This is a sample video for the audio file:

General
Unique ID                            
Complete name                           2pp 101123.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 23.4 MiB
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 1 251 kb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf60.3.100
Writing library                          : Lavf60.3.100
ErrorDetectionType                       : Per level 1

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 40.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : A_AAC-2
Duration                                 : 2 min 37 s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Title                                    : simple_aac_recording0
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No

@jeesa2

Hi

Thanks for additional info, however the additional information raises more questions.

. . . . The audio is an extra video that has been recorded using OBS . . . .

• Was this a commentary recording while playing the original video, and you are trying to edit and lip sync it to the original audio, which is bad?

  OR

  Assuming the original video has a commentary, is the second recording a translation to another language? If so, then the waveforms will not match and syncing is to say the least difficult.

• Assuming different microphones were used, it is quite likely that the waveforms will not match due to different microphone characteristics, this too would make matching and editing difficult. I will tag @CubeAce (Ray) he is an audio expert.
   
• Are you zooming in enough to identify similar peaks in the audio waveform

John EB

Hi John.

The video itself has no audio.

It is a drawing video where you see only hands. The second video recorded via OBS is the audio that explains the process. I only use the audio from this second video.

Hope this makes sense.

The wave display of the recorded voice does not match. There are empty spaces where the voice can be still heard and visa versa. The wavelength display does not match the voice.

The issue seems to be buffering and/or slow preloading.

Are you zooming in enough to identify similar peaks in the audio waveform. Yes

I have been using Magix for many years and also on this laptop. I never had issues until recently.

Thank you for your help.

@jeesa2

Hi

Thanks for the clarification.

The easiest and probably the quickest solution is to re-record the audio directly in Movie Studio, while playing the video clip on the timeline, a processes called 'dubbing' - see video linked to below on audio in MEP/MMS, by @browj2 for how to do this - starts at 8:46 into the video.

HTH

John EB

@jeesa2

Hi.

The one thing I notice about your OBS files is they do not show any frames per second in the audio section. I don't know if that is part of the problem or not, only that my OBS recordings do show a normal expected frame rate. Also why does your OBS file show a QuickTime signature? Here is the MediaInfo from one of my OBS recordings.

General
Complete name                            : J:\Internet Video Recordings\New folder\Mixcraft 9 videos\A 2bit 8bit Demo.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 381 MiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 1 s
Overall bit rate                         : 10.6 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Writing application                      : Lavf60.3.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=4, N=50
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Source duration                          : 5 min 0 s
Bit rate                                 : 10.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 60.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.083
Stream size                              : 354 MiB (93%)
Source stream size                       : 369 MiB (97%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 164 r3106 eaa68fa
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=8 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=50 / keyint_min=5 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=10 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10250 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Color range                              : Full
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 300667
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 5 min 1 s
Source duration                          : 5 min 1 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 330 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 11.8 MiB (3%)
Source stream size                       : 11.8 MiB (3%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

It's possible that the settings you have chosen to record in OBS are causing problems. These are some of my OBS settings. They work fine in all the video editors I use.

Another option is to upload one of your files to Google drive for us to test and see if there are problems at our end as well. I personally don't use OBS for this job but a dedicated audio editor. You do realise you could use MMS to record and audio track instead? A file made by the program should not cause these problems.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . OBS files is they do not show any frames per second in the audio section . . . .

@jeesa2's MediaInfo data does show the fps for the audio - the MediaInfo analysis is after the line 'This is a sample video for the audio file:'

There is, however, a problem with this parameter in that the Audio 'frame rate' has nothing to do with the video frame rate and should only be quoted for MP3 files and its derivatives which encode audio as a series of data blocks which have been attributed the name 'frames'.

The parameter is a calculated from the Sample rate ÷ Samples per data block (frame).

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Sorry, I was looking at the wrong file. I'm not familiar with working with MKV files either. I also seem to have repeated your advice in your last post.

Are you referring to the line [ Codec ID    : A_AAC-2 ] ? If so I've not seen that before from OBS.

Normally my recordings on the same line would be [ mp4a-40-2 ] I still think it is an OBS setting problem. Would still love to be able to test the problem file.

I'm not sure when it happened but I think a Windows update has at some point over possibly the last few months may have altered some of the audio device settings. On my PC default the mic input was changed and it took me a while to re-engage it so my mic would work again. Possibly because the mic channel can't record at the same bit depth level on my machine and stuck with 16 bits.

Ray.