Midi controller input quantization and actual playback recording

rommelsharma wrote on 10/27/2010, 7:18 AM

Hi,

 

I tested a midi-controller (velocity sensitive Line-6 POD Studio KB37) plugged into my Win7 m/c with Magix Music Maker 16 Premium. During midi recording, the recording identified all the notes I played however it did not record the lengths/timing for each note but assigned a fixed timing to each.

 

Let me explain some more if not clear - lets say I press 5 keys, for 1second, 2s, 3s, 4s, 2s respectively.

When I playback I note that each key is played for only 0.5 second only i.e. half a second each.

 

I changed quantization numbers randomly but that did not help to have an actual recording.

 

How do we overcome this problem and have exactly same mid playback as played via the midi controller?

Also - how do we record velocity sensitiveness (i did turn on the velocity button on the midi interface of Magix s/w).

 

 

Thank you very much!

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nihon94 wrote on 10/27/2010, 8:26 AM

Hello,

 

Thank you for message and contact request.

Frankly speaking I prefer to use computer for making music than external keyboard etc.

 

In your case it seems latency problem.

 

MMM 16 Premium Help file Pdf page 23 talk a little about

Own recordings
Use this recording function from MAGIX Music Maker 16 Premium to
record vocals, noises, or instruments and integrate them into the
arrangement.
MIDI integration
MAGIX Music Maker 16 Premium helps you arrange, load, record,
edit, and play MIDI data just as easily as audio data. You can
combine wave sound files with MIDI files for controlling the sound
chip on your sound card or VST instrument plug-ins or external
synthesizers, and then arrange everything together.
For MIDI recordings and editing you can use the extensive MIDI editor
with piano roll, drum editor, velocity/controller editor, and event list.
MIDI object recording can be started directly from the arranger by
setting the recording mode in the track box to MIDI.

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When you connected Midi controller did you properly make settings in Magix Music Maker

Please refer these pdf for details

How to solve latency problem
http://www.magix.info/us/how-to-solve-latency-problem.online-training.130215.html

 

How to connect Keyboard/Piano
http://www.magix.info/us/how-to-connect-keyboard-piano-with-computer-ii.online-training.130220.html

 

How to connect mircrophone for recording?
http://www.magix.info/us/how-to-connect-microphone-for-recording.online-training.154378.html

 

You can read pdf which interests you. In these I have added Photos and text for help.

 

But my friendly advice, please also send email to Magix support.

 

Thank you

nihon94

 

 

 

john-auvil wrote on 10/27/2010, 9:33 AM

Turn off the quantization option...

 

It sounds like it is just quantizing everything to be identical, turn that off and it should record the data as you imput it so you get the velocity/sustain desired.

nihon94 wrote on 10/27/2010, 11:18 PM

Hi,

 

I hope you are not using trial version.

I also found some information in the help about Midi.

Therefore, I also suggest when you open Music Maker click on

Help/Documentation/Table of Contents, in the search type MIDI and you will get

topics about Midi.

 

Thank you

nihon94

rommelsharma wrote on 10/28/2010, 10:33 AM

Thanks a lot Nihon94 and John. I am going through all the material you are referring to.
Used the ASIO driver, have a premium fully active licensed version of MM Prem 16.
 

John - How do I turn off quantization?

 

I dont see the option there. If I use my computer keys for midi input, even then the legth of time I play the notes is not being recorded. Everything is being quantized in similar length of time.

 

Screenshots attached below.

 

Many thanks for the help again!

 

 

Rommel.

 

 

Turn off the quantization option...

 

It sounds like it is just quantizing everything to be identical, turn that off and it should record the data as you imput it so you get the velocity/sustain desired.

nihon94 wrote on 10/28/2010, 3:36 PM

Hi,

 

I think even in MMM 16 you can use this command.

Midi Options/Advanced quantization/Quantization settings (Alt+Q)

you will also find undo quantization in the same menu.(I never use it try yourself)

Here is specially made screen shot for you

 

Please read more details in Help of MMM 16, in search type Midi and you will learn a lot.

 

Thank you

nihon94

rommelsharma wrote on 11/3/2010, 1:27 AM

OK - finally got around the problem, and thanks to all the users who responded and specialy to the 'Magix Customer Care' that pinned down the issue and gave a solution I am noting below.

 

Normally when we use step input, the key strokes are recorded but quantized to fixed lengths even if it sounds for different durations (actual amount of time we keep the key pressed).

 

In order to record 'exactly as it sounds' click on the 'record' button on the midi editor. Now the display will show midi inputs via a controller or computer keyboard to be quantized in a fixed equal length however when you playback you will notice that all actual 'key-press/play' timings are reporoduced, and notes automatically transition to the correct varying lengths as played.

 

In order to apply affects to what is being replayed, click on OVERDUB, open the VSTi interface with controls, and use them (like Gate, resonance, A/D/S/R etc) and they would be super-imposed on the notes.

 

 

Really cool, isn't it.

 

Many thanks to all once again - I went through the info, PDFs and links in them and learnt a lot of new things!

 

Cheers,

http://www.reverbnation.com/alternatedimension

nihon94 wrote on 11/3/2010, 2:27 AM

Hi,

 

It is very good your problem is solved and also the best thing you shared your experience so other user can also benefit.

 

Thank you

nihon94