How to draw in midieditor chord intervals at once?

gabor-p wrote on 12/10/2024, 3:15 PM

Hi!
I watched a video, where the guy draws chord intervals at once in midietitor to the blank midiobject. Mean if he wants to draw for example the Cmaj chord, he doesn't drawing deparately a C, E, G. He has Cubase and the column called inspector. There is a chord separation tool, so if he choosed Cmaj, the program automaticaly filled the designated part with chord intervals. Of course there he could choose any types of chords. Very quick and comfortable.
Is the same function somewhere in Samp Prox 8? Dug the whole midieditor, but can't find something similar, if it exists.
Thanks in advance!
Gabor

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SP. wrote on 12/10/2024, 3:28 PM

@gabor-p Samplitude has a pattern drawing feature. Select a number of notes in the MIDI Editor, then go to Edit > Create Pattern from Selection and then select Mouse Mode > Pattern Pencil. This will speed things up.

Besides that, there are no additional chord grids

For MIDI editing I personally use Rapid Composer because it has a lot more features.

gabor-p wrote on 12/10/2024, 3:32 PM

Thanks!
Yes, this works. But can I name the pattern, say 7th dominant cord, save it and load it when needed?

SP. wrote on 12/10/2024, 4:47 PM

@gabor-p No patterns cannot be saved. It only draws the last copied pattern.

There are two more ways, that might be helpful. One easy and one complicated, but faster.

 

First the easy one. Create an empty MIDI object, draw your chord inside it and reduce the length of the MIDI object if your chord is shorter. Export the MIDI from the MIDI Editor into a file.

 

You can then drag and drop the MID file back into your project and transpose it via the object editor.

 

 

Now something more advanced. For this, you need to know how the included Independence sampler works. 

Download and install the Independence Sampler from Help > Download Instruments and Sounds.

After it is installed, add it as an virtual instrument (as a MIDI plugin!) to your track.

After the first start, it will ask you, if you want to download the included instruments. Say yes, if you want (can take a while) or skip with No and do it later.

Remove all layers (it comes with a standard piano layer) and add a new empty layer.

Click on the new empty layer, switch to the mapping tab, and drag and drop your exportet MIDI chord file onto the piano key mapping area.

It will ask you, to which key you want to map it. Since my chord is has its lowest chord note on C3 I type in C3.

 

The MIDI file is then placed on C3.I marked some important features. You can change, for example, the note offset and if it should be played as a loop or sequence. You MUST enable midi thru for it to send MIDI to an instrument.

Next, lets add an instrument to your track, for example DN-e1. Because you added Independence as a MIDI Plugin, you can place DN-e1 directly after it.

Now you can play the MIDI chord with your MIDI keyboard by simply pressing one single(!) key and can hear the VST instrument.

This means you now need to only draw a single note in the MIDI editor and no longer need to draw complete chords (or other sequences, in case you load them into Independence)

I recommend, you drag the playing area wider and enable tracking, so it follows your key presses up and down. But you can also place a lot of other different chords or other MIDIs on the mapping screen. Do it like you want.

In case you are wondering, playing the piano inside Independence will also trigger the key you press down, but playing with your MIDI keyboard or the internal Samplitude keyboard should only trigger the MIDI itself.

Additionally, Independence also offers the Arranger Module in case you want to trigger sequences with keyboard by playing certain keys and chords. You can add this on the Modules tab. Click on the modifier button and select the Arranger. On the right side, you can see the settings. You can open the details via the Edit button and then add MIDI files there.

 

In case you install the Indpendence instrument library (which we skipped before), there might be some arranger presets included with the strings orchestra and electric guitars in case you want to see it in action with an already fully set up Arranger. I'm not sure if this is part of Samplitude Pro X8, but it should definitely be included in Pro X8 Suite.

gabor-p wrote on 12/11/2024, 5:41 AM

Thank you for your work!
I think, that for this simple task the first solution is enough. And you're right, the Rapid composer is more better for this tasks and many more...

G
 

gabor-p wrote on 12/11/2024, 8:51 AM

I haven't use Rapid Composer a long time and never dug in deep. Now I should, as I realized that it's not just standalone, but I can load it as a plugin in Samp also. This will be solution to tons of midiediting tasks.
Thanks anyway!
G

SP. wrote on 12/11/2024, 9:52 AM

@gabor-p Yes, It's perfect for replacing limited MIDI editing options. I additionally use Plogue Bidule and virtual MIDI ports (LoopMIDI or LoopBe) to get pretty much unlimited routing possibilities.