How do I snap all video objects together on the timeline?

Wayne-McIlvaine wrote on 8/8/2022, 10:13 PM

What is the command / shortcut to remove all empty space between objects on the timeline and "snap" them together?

Also, what is the latest version of VPX 13? I am on 19.0.2.155 (UDP 3). Is that the latest? I try to update within the app, but nothing happens.

Thanks!

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AAProds wrote on 8/8/2022, 11:19 PM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

This is for MEP 2021; I assume it will be the same in VPX 13.

One way is to snap two objects together, click the rightmost of the two objects then click on the blue and yellow Transition box. Set the Transition to a "Cut" (it will probably already be set to that), then down the bottom choose either "apply to all objects" or "following objects". This will apply the Cut transition to all the edges, thereby closing up the gaps.

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My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

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Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

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Various other SSD and HDDs.

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Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

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CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

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MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

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VPX 12

Wayne-McIlvaine wrote on 8/8/2022, 11:40 PM

Thanks! Is there a keyboard shortcut for this?

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AAProds wrote on 8/9/2022, 12:23 AM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

A good question! The PDF manual says there is "Edit>Find Gaps". But that is nowhere to be seen here. The program Help says it's in "Edit>Move View>search for gaps" CTRL SHFT C but that doesn't exist/work either. 😎

Added: If you're the mouse mode for "single track" (the pointer options above the left end of the timeline), if you create a gap then close it by dragging to the left, all the objects to the right will get dragged along too, so no gap will be created further along the timeline.

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All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

johnebaker wrote on 8/9/2022, 4:54 AM

@AAProds, @Wayne-McIlvaine

Hi

In VPX 14 the Find gaps feature is there, however it only tells you where the gaps are, there is no option to remove them automatically and you cannot remove the gaps while the dialog is open

. . . . mouse mode for "single track" . . . . create a gap then close it by dragging to the left, all the objects to the right will get dragged along too, so no gap will be created further along the timeline. . . . .

Do note this affects only the track it is being used on, objects on other tracks will not move to maintain sync.

John EB

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browj2 wrote on 8/9/2022, 8:29 AM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

Hi Wayne,

The main trick is to not have gaps in the first place. How are you getting the gaps?

Note that Magix defines gaps as any gap in the timeline, not just a track. So, if there is a gap on Track 1 but it is covered by an object on another track, it is not considered to be a gap.

@johnebaker

Hi John EB,

New feature in VPX14?

Right-click on a blank area:

and all gaps get closed.

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Wayne-McIlvaine wrote on 8/9/2022, 9:06 AM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

Hi Wayne,

The main trick is to not have gaps in the first place. How are you getting the gaps?

Note that Magix defines gaps as any gap in the timeline, not just a track. So, if there is a gap on Track 1 but it is covered by an object on another track, it is not considered to be a gap.

Thanks John. How do you NOT end up with gaps during editing?! 😆 My style is to slap every clip on the timeline and then make sense of it all as I trim the beginning, middles and ends of clips, and move them around. I like to keep things tight together as I go, so I have a sense of how long the final video is going to be, and doing it all manually is a chore. AAProds' recommendation works for me, so I'm all good, but I'd love keyboard shortcuts. 😆

Thanks everyone!

PS - Any insight on my second question, as to what is the latest version of VPX13? I can't seem to find a patch section on Magix' website, just a full install, and I do not want to uninstall and reinstall to find out. Thanks!

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CubeAce wrote on 8/9/2022, 9:20 AM

@browj2

Hi John.

I think find and close gaps has been around since the introduction of the infusion engine.

At least it is present in both MEP 2022 and VPX 12.

Not a feature I've found necessary personally

@Wayne-McIlvaine

Last patch for VPX 13 was .138

I have a similar workflow but often use short cross-fades. Make sure you have the magnet icon active for more accurate butt joining.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 8/9/2022, 9:31 AM

@browj2

Hi John

. . . . New feature in VPX14? . . .

Not according the manuals VPX had this feature at least from VPX 4, possibly VPX 3 - it was not present in VPX 2 and I do not have the VPX 3 manual.

. . . . Right-click on a blank area: . . . .

Interesting that this is a separate function from the Search for gaps! This is present in MEP 2021 and 2022 but no 'Search for gaps'

John EB

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browj2 wrote on 8/9/2022, 9:47 AM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

Hi Wayne,

You are not using the proper tools for editing. I edit similar to you, but I don't get gaps.

See this tutorial and save yourself hours of work:

John CB

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johnebaker wrote on 8/9/2022, 9:51 AM

@Wayne-McIlvaine

Hi

You are on the latest, and last, version of VPX 13, according both to my list of patches and the last Patch notification here.

John EB.

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