Do I have to subscribe to it or is there a physical or digital product

johny_lovin_it wrote on 7/30/2022, 8:04 PM

As the title asks; do I have to subscribe to use Video Pro X? Or is there a digital or physical product I can own forever? I really don't want to pay monthly for a product. I have version 2019 I think and its Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium. I'm not sure if I should get it. I know y'all would encourage me to cuz' it has new features and all but what are they? What I would really want is when I overlap an audio and video track over another, I'd like to have the track line to curve when I want to crossfade or just fade. I'd like to curve the fade but its only a straight line.

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CubeAce wrote on 7/30/2022, 8:58 PM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi.

Yes. All options are on the same webpage. Just be careful to select the correct version. It is the perpetual licence version, or if you have MEP 2019 you may quality for the upgrade to VPX. It should allow you to keep your current copy of MEP.

Also make sure your system can preferably exceed the minimum running requirements.

I think you can add curves to audio in VPX but there are other ways of going about that such as putting the videos on different tracks and have them overlap and then drawing in the curves using the curve drawing tool or using the mixer track faders. Not as elegant and needs steady hand.

Ray.

 

 

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browj2 wrote on 7/30/2022, 10:02 PM

@johny_lovin_it

On the Magix.com site for Movie Studio, when you scroll down to the Subscribe options, keep scrolling down to the Upgrade and New options which are for the perpetual product of that version.

John CB

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johny_lovin_it wrote on 7/31/2022, 11:50 AM

@johny_lovin_it

On the Magix.com site for Movie Studio, when you scroll down to the Subscribe options, keep scrolling down to the Upgrade and New options which are for the perpetual product of that version.

John CB

I found it, its $70. Not bad for an upgrade. But there's also a VPX upgrade for $190. What is the difference between two? With VPX, could I do curve crossfade with overlapping tracks like you can in Vegas? I mean since Magix bought Vegas, I hoped it would include that feature. And would VPX have vhs effects and transitions like you can do with Premiere Pro?

CubeAce wrote on 7/31/2022, 5:40 PM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi.

I think that answer has been covered in your other post.

VPX is a beefier version of Movie Studio. Same basic layout but with added flexibility with transition curves for one. More control over things like colour correction etc if you need that amount of control. Object tracking is a tad more accurate and you should get smoother playback and faster export times with sufficient processing power over Movie Studio. Slightly better audio engine. Before and after monitors, the second monitor of which if desired can be used to live view RGB values etc with various scope and graphic representations. You can also edit some of the provided animated titles with an added title editor (Xara) that is not present in Movie Studio. No additional HEVC encoder needed to handle H265 files. VPX handles third party LUTS internally and camera specific LUTS. Movie Studio does not without a bit of possibly illegal modification.

VPX is still offering the NewBlue TotalFX – MAGIX Edition suite of effects which is worth the upgrade cost in itself (in my opinion) whereas that offer has expired with Movie studio.

Ray.

 

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

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johny_lovin_it wrote on 7/31/2022, 5:49 PM

I may get the Movie Suite. It says to upgrade Movie Suite includes NewBlue. Is that the TotalFX? If so, does it include the vhs stuff I want? I looked it up and I couldn't find any.

CubeAce wrote on 7/31/2022, 7:40 PM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi.

Made mistake on reply.

Ray.

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Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

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CubeAce wrote on 7/31/2022, 7:51 PM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi.

Something is odd in replying. Third time lucky.

Yes, the offers must have changed today. it is this suite of plugins minus a few of them that are not compatible but no longer seems to be on offer with VPX.

 

Ray.

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Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 8/1/2022, 3:49 AM

@johny_lovin_it, @CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Same basic layout but with added flexibility with transition curves for one . . . .

Assuming you mean the Flexible crossfade MEP/MMS also has this, the example I did is a keyframed effect.

. . . . Movie Studio does not without a bit of possibly illegal modification. . . .

No illegal modification necessary, MEP/MMS do support 3rd party LUTS, they appear under the Movie Looks templates when the 3D LUTS .cube files, 1D LUTS do not work, are put in to the correct folders, for MEP 2022 they are

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Edit Pro Premium\VideoEffects\LUTPresets\LUTEffect

and

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Edit Pro Premium\VideoEffects\LUTPresets\LUTCamera

If you use subfolders they will appear as tiles/entries with the same name as the folder. MMS, and VPX use their corresponding folder locations.

HTH

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CubeAce wrote on 8/1/2022, 6:23 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I'm going back a bit but wasn't there a problem some time back where we were copying something (maybe a folder or similar) from VPX to get a working solution to something MEP didn't have? I can't remember the specifics but I thought it was along those lines.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

browj2 wrote on 8/1/2022, 7:26 AM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi,

Did you try them out first? You can download the trial of each. You will not get all of the template effects and content, but you can at least make sure that the program works on your computer. You may want to play with the trial versions for a month and wait to see if there is a better offer for VPX and MS.

The features of each are listed on the Comparison chart. Note that VPX is compared to MS Platinum Suite. The link goes to the Canadian site; you can change to your local site by clicking on the globe at the top right.

As you've been told, Movie Studio 2023 is about to be released. If you purchase 2022 Suite, the offer indicates that you will get 2023 when it comes out.

However, neither program comes with proDAD Mercalli. V6 has been released and may be bundled with VPX or MS in the near future, so you may want to wait.

Lastly, note that the main difference between MS Suite purchase/upgrade and a subscription is that you get access to Storyblocks for a year with the subscription.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

IIRC, there were a couple of template folders that were left out of a version of MEP, so they were copied over to MEP content from VPX content. This has since been corrected, I believe.

John CB

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CubeAce wrote on 8/1/2022, 9:20 AM

@browj2

Thanks for the info John.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johny_lovin_it wrote on 8/4/2022, 8:53 AM

@johny_lovin_it

Hi,

Did you try them out first? You can download the trial of each. You will not get all of the template effects and content, but you can at least make sure that the program works on your computer. You may want to play with the trial versions for a month and wait to see if there is a better offer for VPX and MS.

The features of each are listed on the Comparison chart. Note that VPX is compared to MS Platinum Suite. The link goes to the Canadian site; you can change to your local site by clicking on the globe at the top right.

As you've been told, Movie Studio 2023 is about to be released. If you purchase 2022 Suite, the offer indicates that you will get 2023 when it comes out.

However, neither program comes with proDAD Mercalli. V6 has been released and may be bundled with VPX or MS in the near future, so you may want to wait.

Lastly, note that the main difference between MS Suite purchase/upgrade and a subscription is that you get access to Storyblocks for a year with the subscription.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

IIRC, there were a couple of template folders that were left out of a version of MEP, so they were copied over to MEP content from VPX content. This has since been corrected, I believe.

John CB

No and that was my mistake before I bought the product. It honestly has no difference from what I already have, and if so then just very little bit I feel everything I need in a movie edit is what I already have, so I'm not that pleased with my purchase. Also it is giving me minor issues.

I doubt it but is it possible to return and ask for refunds?