Connecting HDMI TO SCART TO RCA TO...

Doug-Burck wrote on 5/3/2024, 9:50 AM

I bought the Magix Video Saver software, found that the SCART device that came with it does not connect to my Panasonic VHS/DVD player. I went on Amazon and purchased another SCART that connects to it so I can now continue to "proceed" to connect to the Panasonic VHS/DVD. But, no luck, I need to use a HDMI cable to go from that new SCART to the Panasonic VHS/DVD. So here is my question:

Can I daisy chain this crazy connection from the Panasonic VHS/DVD to my Computer "safely"? Here is the scenario:

VHS/DVD-HDMI cable-newSCART/SCART(that came with Magix Video Saver)-RCA cable-Video Converter-Computer(USB)

I appreciate anyone taking the time to give me some confidence before I plug this in and turn it on. I don't want to ruin anything.

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AAProds wrote on 5/3/2024, 10:07 AM

@Doug-Burck

Welcome to Magix, Doug. There can be foibles with cabling.

What's the model of your VHS/DVD combo?

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All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

emmrecs wrote on 5/3/2024, 10:14 AM

@Doug-Burck

HDMI is a digital connection, SCART is analogue. The two are entirely different.

For your proposed connections to work and assuming that you wish to transfer your VHS tapes for computer editing, the analogue output of the VHS tape would need to be digitised by the Panasonic player. Its output would then go to the digital HDMI socket but the signal would need to be converted to analogue before it reaches the first SCART plug. That analogue signal would then be passed to the Video Convertor, whose purpose is to convert the incoming analogue signal to digital, which is what your computer would save.

Thus, three conversions (A>D, D>A and A>D) would be involved even before the signal reaches your computer.

Can you provide a link to the Amazon product you bought, please? I'd very much like to see whether it includes a D>A convertor somewhere in the cable, or either of the plugs. Somehow, I doubt whether it does or, if it does, what the quality is like!

Jeff
Forum Moderator

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SP. wrote on 5/3/2024, 10:49 AM

@Doug-Burck 

But, no luck, I need to use a HDMI cable to go from that new SCART to the Panasonic VHS/DVD. 

This doesn't make sense to me. Please upload some photos.

Does your VHS player only have HDMI out? Usually, these devices have RCA Cinch video/audio outputs (common in North America), SCART (common in Europe) or Component (common in France).

johnebaker wrote on 5/3/2024, 1:53 PM

@Doug-Burck

Hi

. . . . Magix Video Saver software, found that the SCART device that came with it does not connect to my Panasonic VHS/DVD player . . . .

The Panasonic player may have only red/white/yellow sockets on the back and assuming the SCART cable is the original that came with the software, then you can unplug the SCART plug/adaptor from the cable, then use the cable to connect the VCR, making sure you use the 'out' sockets, not those labelled Component video out to the video converter dongle.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Doug-Burck wrote on 5/4/2024, 9:36 AM

johnebaker, Thank you so much! Now that makes so much sense! Yes, the back of the Panasonic player has just what you described. I'm going to do as you you explained and I'll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you so much and thanks to everyone who has joined in on this discussion. I really appreciate it.

 

AAProds wrote on 5/4/2024, 10:22 AM

@Doug-Burck

Doug, what is the model number of your VCR? For best quality, you may be able to use S-Video instead of Composite (Yellow lead).

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12