ASIO recording problems with line-in audio

mdelec2 wrote on 9/8/2013, 4:07 AM

When recording line-in audio with Samplitude 2013, the ASIO driver (Creative X-Fi)  mixes playback with recorded track when recording audio.

The MIDI recording works without other tracks interferring, and if I switch to MME or WDM driver the issue goes away with audio recording from line in, but the latency is terrible.

any one have a similar issue or an insight as to what is causing this?

Alienware Aurora R4, Win7 pro 64bit, i7 3820 quad CPU @ 3.6Ghz,  32gb ram, Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series, using hardware mixer stereo output to line-in.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 9/8/2013, 4:14 AM

Hi

See this tutorial by nihon94

John

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mdelec2 wrote on 9/8/2013, 1:38 PM

Hi

See this tutorial by nihon94

John

Thanks for your reply John, but there was nothing in your tutorial that I didn't alrerady know and try, I have been recording with Creative ASIO, and Magix products, since 2002 and have had many versions of their recording software on many PC's over the years.

My problem is not with latency, it is with getting an audio bleed of the simultaniously played back audio into the new recorded track using the ASIO driver.

I have a new system that I described above, that has a new version of Samplitude 2013 and also MMM MX suite installed, they both have the bleed over issue with the ASIO driver, which leads me to believe it is either a hardware issue (the card is used, bought on amazon) or the drivers are corrupt and have a fault in them due to many many many installation re-tries before they finally went in. I have had several X-Fi card in the past (PCI2 and PCIE) and never encountered this issue before using ASIO.

so, I am still stuck with the ASIO driver bleeding audio into a track being recorded through the line-in of an X-Fi card.

 

johnebaker wrote on 9/8/2013, 4:40 PM

Hi

I think this is a sound card setting and you should also contact Creative support - some of these cards have a variety of operational modes  - if you do not have the manual for the card it may be available on the Creative site.

John

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

mdelec2 wrote on 9/8/2013, 5:17 PM

Hi

I think this is a sound card setting and you should also contact Creative support - some of these cards have a variety of operational modes  - if you do not have the manual for the card it may be available on the Creative site.

John

Thanks again John,

I have tried all that, I know about the mode mixers and have used them for a decade with no issues, I know how to use the software. I have an older system with an older PCI X-Fi Platinum and Samplitude 15 & MMM 15 and there are no issues.

the ASIO driver is insisting on using the Creative "what you hear" input, and will not recognize the line-in for recording. I cant find a way to change the setting since ASIO properties don't allow anything except changing the ASIO buffer, and the Magix sound properties panel for audio properties only shows inputs as ASIO in (1+2), ASIO in (3+4), ASIO in (5+6), ASIO in (7+8), I have even resrticted it to use only the ASIO in (1+2) with no change in the track bleed over. only changing to WDM or MME driver allows the DAW to track only the line-in with no bleed over from other channels.

I still believe it is linked to the "what you hear" function and a faulty soundcard.

I have performed a full removal of the card and software and have done two complete re-installs with no help.

and I cant swap cards from the unit that works because of PCI slot differences.

STUCK!

 

mdelec2 wrote on 9/11/2013, 12:19 PM

A quick update to my ASIO issues, the fault was Creative's soundcard and not Samplitude or MMM MX.

I replaced the older legacy unit with a new card with current up-to-date drivers, and the tracks now record from line-in with no bleed over from adjacent tracks.

 

thanks again for your efforts to help John, you were right in assuming it was the card :)

Michael