Performance problems and Access Violation in VDL.EXE

Marc-Goder Posté à 27/02/2023 19:45

@CubeAce @johnebaker @browj2 @Ancien utilisateur

Hello everyone reading this post.

I have significant problems with the following video files

1.Panasonic GH6
Any 5,7K footage I've gotten from this camera so far doesn't play nearly smoothly when imported into a project with other footage.

If I import a single video file from the GH6 into a new project, it plays smoothly. If a second file is imported, the stuttering starts.

When importing into a project where, for example, material from other media is already available, there are significant performance problems.

Magix VDL2022 only reacts with a delay. Any actions need 5-10 seconds until the program reacts again.

If I remove the file from the project, I can continue working normally after another 10 seconds.

Of course, the 24-bit 48 KHZ (96 KHZ) audio sound is not imported.

Maybe someone can test it to see if it's the same for you.

Here is a download link via GOOGLE Drive to such a demo file from DKamera.de

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OiVt_2Ng9kErJUHvjhZZH7q5KSZh4qij/view?usp=share_link

2.GoPro 11
The GoPro 11's footage is even worse. Recordings in 8:7 aspect ratio produce Access Violation in VDLEXE.

Either when playing in the timeline but at the latest when rendering.

It is not foreseeable when the error will be produced during playback in the timeline.
Sometimes I can play the affected files several times and sometimes Magix crashes the first time.

Download link of such a file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xUJRooyRdeLvfpexBHDB2NCZsynvlyTP/view?usp=share_link

The same applies to 10 bit 4:2:0 image format 16:9 with 5.3K material of the GoPro 11.

download link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SheehTkIqQgqjZqwEQy8kGntBecWY-sY/view?usp=share_link

as well as 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2oQZnDtYJfHBDHRXQwoxSm_ipB-rDoG/view?usp=share_link

I would appreciate feedback.

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Marc-Goder Posté à 27/02/2023 20:31

Of course, the 24-bit 48 KHZ (96 KHZ) audio sound is not imported.

That with the sound has already been done. I haven't tried tracks 3 and 4

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CubeAce Posté à 28/02/2023 00:56

@Marc-Goder

Hi Marc.

I have downloaded all the files. I am quite busy until at least Thursday so I may be quite a while until I can get back to you.

Ray.

 

 

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Ancien utilisateur Posté à 28/02/2023 01:28

@Marc-Goder Hi, I downloaded all, all files played & were editable amongst some UHD files,

What are the project settings/size?

BTW the GH6 MOV file plays like crap in Vegas even with proxy enabled

PS I tried a few different project sizes, they all worked fine,

CubeAce Posté à 28/02/2023 02:34

@Marc-Goder @Ancien utilisateur

Hi Marc.

I agree with Gid up to a point. The GH6 MOV file is the worst file being 10 bit and a mov file which is not a Windows file type really, mov files are best dealt with on Macs.

Surprisingly the file resolutions, frame speeds and bit depths were no problem but the audio for MEP(MMS) can't be read after just importing the clip. VPX can handle such audio streams though. Vegas Pro 18 was not easy to set up to work well and give a smooth playback with any expectation of getting a good image in the programs' monitor

Because of my limited GPU capabilities I did have to use a pre-render in every program to get smooth playback for the first and last video clips in any of the editors. I'm not sure even the 3060 has enough processing to handle the GH6 10 bit file.

It might be worth you downloading the VPX 14 trial to try out. See if your system handles the files better than my system does.

Ray.

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2128 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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Running MEP Premium 21.0.2.138 and VPX 20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 02:55

I hope Nvidia will release the new driver version 530.XX soon.  I'll try again with the latest driver. In the current state, the GOPRO 11 files in particular always crash for me.

Conclusion:

I have a 4K+ problem so far.  Because both the Panasonic cameras GH5 II, GH6, S5II and the GoPro 11 run all other recordings and formats in AVCHD and HEVC up to 4096X2160 perfectly.

Only from 5K there are problems at the moment.

I also tested ProRes recordings. They also work up to 4096X2160 (17:9).

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Ancien utilisateur Posté à 28/02/2023 05:41

@Marc-Goder @Marc-Goder Long boring video of me playing with those clips,

Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 16:27

@CubeAce @Ancien utilisateur @browj2

The new NVidia driver is now online.

I'll try that now.

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Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

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browj2 Posté à 28/02/2023 18:31

@Marc-Goder

Hi Marc,

I just updated to the Games Ready Driver 531.18.

Are you using Games Ready or Studio Driver?

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Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 19:40

@browj2

I use Games Ready Driver 531.18 now

and @huebi123 said "start your computer without another display" and starting without another connected display is at least the solution that the error doesn't always appear that I don't have enough graphics card memory.

Furthermore, the GoPro recordings now work but with some jerking. But there is no more Access Violation. I can now also play 8K files from the Samsung Galaxy S22. Sometimes they jerk. But depending on what another clip is in front of it, they even run smoothly.

But nothing can be done about the 5.7K file of the Panasonic GH6.  This file always crashes my system.  The error message Access Violation in Video Deluxe.EXE then appears again.

Dernière modification de Marc-Goder le 28/02/2023, 19:42, Modifié 1 fois au total.

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Ancien utilisateur Posté à 28/02/2023 19:50

@Marc-Goder Hi,  I use the Studio driver,. You say 'I use Games Ready Driver 531.18 now' , what were you using?

johnebaker Posté à 28/02/2023 20:07

@Marc-Goder, @Ancien utilisateur

Hi

Updated to the latest version 531.18 which is the Game Ready driver with a couple of 'fixes' for Premier rendering.

On the current project mainly video, with a 12 image collage, LUT and transition effects only, total run time of 5 mins was ~ 6% faster rendering times compared to the 528.49 driver.

The Benchmarking project I need to test this again on both PC and laptop, results were not consistent.

The Studio Driver is currently still at 528.49.

John EB

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Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 20:10

Bisher war die Version Game Ready Driver 497.29.

All other 5XX.XX drivers let my fans spin up immediately after the Windows login and the CPU load increased to 30%.  Without running any applications.

This is the first new driver where this no longer happens.

And I was hoping for that too. That the new driver works for me.

I would also like to try out how playing old YouTube videos with RTX VSR works now.  If the new driver hadn't worked for me again, it wouldn't have been possible.

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CubeAce Posté à 28/02/2023 20:38

@Marc-Goder

Hi.

This might be a stupid question but do you have QuickTime for Windows installed? I know technically it should no longer be needed but it is on my system and I'm not getting the Access Violation on that file.

Might be worth a try?

Ray.

 

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Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 20:45

@CubeAce

Yes, I have QuickTime installed.  The Quick Time alternative that Magix recommended on their support pages.

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Ancien utilisateur Posté à 28/02/2023 20:51

@Marc-Goder

'The Quick Time alternative that Magix recommended on their support pages'

Is that the same as this Quicktime? This is what I have bookmarked & have installed https://support.apple.com/kb/dl837?locale=en_GB

Marc-Goder Posté à 28/02/2023 21:06

https://my.hidrive.com/lnk/kKgqGF0U#file

This is the version of Magix. Before I installed it, I couldn't import *.MOV files into Magix.

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johnebaker Posté à 28/02/2023 21:37

@Marc-Goder

Hi

I would suggest you update to the Quicktime from Apple - Quicktime Alternative's last release was about 5 years before Quicktime for Windows was abandoned by Apple.

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Marc-Goder Posté à 01/03/2023 13:45

I now have the original Apple QuickTime 7.7.9 installed. That didn't change anything either.

When Magix ProX 15 comes out soon, I'll try the TEST VERSION again first.

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Marc-Goder Posté à 02/03/2023 00:48

I installed the new NVidia driver and it now works better for me than the previous 5xx.xx driver.

Then I started the laptop without an additional display. The error with the message "insufficient graphics card memory" has now been resolved.

A Windows option was set to OFF for me.

If I switch this option to ON, then all clips from the GH6 work for ME, both in the timeline and in the export.

If I switch the option OFF again, Magix crashes again with Access Violatoion in VDL.EXE

The option is under Settings ---> Ease of Access ---> Screen

The menu item at the bottom.

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Ancien utilisateur Posté à 02/03/2023 02:58

@Marc-Goder Hi, just for the sake of sharing, when I open mine this is how it's set up, apart from setting the Main display 150% I haven't changed this.

Reyfox Posté à 03/03/2023 17:38

@Ancien utilisateur after Vegas did it's "thing" with the GH6 file, I was able to play it back at full resolution in Preview>Full. It has 4 audio tracks and looks like 2 of them have nothing on them. Resolve Studio 18 struggled with the file.

I shoot all the time with the MOV wrapper from my Panasonic camera in 10bit 4:2:2 UHD 4K and have no problems with using that type of file in VPX12.

I'd like to pose a question to everyone. Why is ProRes so popular as an acquisition format with professionals even though the file size is huge?

johnebaker Posté à 03/03/2023 18:00

@Reyfox

Hi

. . . . Why is ProRes so popular as an acquisition format with professionals even though the file size is huge? . . . .

After a quick Google search for 'Why is ProRes so popular', the top result brought up this article which I think answers the question.

HTH

John EB

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CubeAce Posté à 03/03/2023 18:38

@Reyfox

Hi.

ProRes files shot by professionals would be using full frame or large format sensored video cameras where the dynamic range such as found in the RED and similar cameras have will mean better colour accuracy and less shadow noise. Where the larger photo-sites and lack of pixel binning along with flexible shutter angle options of such cameras would allow and make sense of using files capable of extracting a higher dynamic range.

The fact that it is offered on smart phones is in my opinion partly a marketing ploy but at the same time has some limited benefits in processing assuming you have a system that is capable of handling the files. That though means having to have a system that costs as much to process an iPhones' output that would then be equally at home editing footage from a £12,000 video cine camera. To my mind the cost vs benefit calculations then get a bit skewed.

ray.

 

 

 

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2128 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 555.99. - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MEP Premium 21.0.2.138 and VPX 20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MEP 2022, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Pro.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Marc-Goder Posté à 03/03/2023 18:51

Still by the way.  RTX Video Super Resolution on YouTube is really a joke. No difference seen at resolutions like 480p.

Magix Video Deluxe 2022 Premium (2.138)

Rechner: MSI Leopard GP76 , Intel I7-10870H,

NVidia RTX 3060 Mobile (TDP=130 Watt) (6GB),
Treiber-Version 31.0.15.5222

Arbeitsspeicher RAM 16GB,

Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

Windows 10 (Auto-Update + Manuell) Ver.19045.4355

Weitere Video Software: CAPCUT
Konverter: Handbrake

Since 03.02.2024 experementil successfull with K-Lite-Codec Pack.

( Windows 11 kann ich nicht. Krieg ich Blähungen und Bluthochdruck von )