Since a lack of 3rd party transitions in video pro x, are there maybe user here who want to share their (selfmade?) transiton effects? I'm looking for transitions like a fast zoomtransition. Maybe someone here.?
Hi
Have you tried creating your own zoom transition using the Effects, Size/Position and Keyframes to create what you want - below is a basic example of what you can do
If you want a tutorial on how to do this I can put one together for you.
HTH
John EB
Thats nice john,you can always send me an example. but my idea is to hear if there are people who have made transitons on their own and maybe too share some. Maybe we can create a snowball effect..I don't know..what i do know is 3rd party plugins and input from others is horrible...if that 'could' change, video pro x will be a real quality product. Like you see what they did now with the new store..that's ok, but i am affraid that store will only be updated once a year with a few packets...Can they not put in a contest or so for people to make the best transition or something like that...and make the 3rd party more alive...It will benefit everyone..
Btw John, it's not the zoomtransition i mean.. what i want to see is more modern transitions that are used today like this one: 
Hi,
See this thread:
https://www.magix.info/us/forum/smooth-zoom-transition-with-blur-i-m-stuck--1201860/#ca1373495
and this thread, I haven't completed the tutorial yet - script written but steps not filmed:
Pixelan is a third-party plug-in that has 3 programs for transitions: SpiceMaster Pro, DisolveMaster and 3-D Six-Pack. I have all of the Pixelan plug-ins.
Here is the first of 3 tutorials on using Pixelan SpiceMaster Pro for transitions and other effects:
Is there anything in the video tutorial (by Finn) that you don't understand and need help with?
I, too, am always interested in more possibilities.
John CB
. . . . what i want to see is more modern transitions . . . .
The examples in Finn's video are based on the same principles as the very basic one I posted, Keyframe animation and of various effects. Like the example Finn has posted I prefer to create my own effects for transitions. Here are 2 more examples of transitions I created in a short video.
The possibilities are limited only by your imagination.
Apologies John I forgot you are doing an Infinite zoom tutorial.
John EB
Thank you guys, i really appreciate your feedback, but i don't think you quiet understand me. I know i can build some transitions, no problem. But do i have always the time for that..no. And honestly, the only package that gave me some transitions i could really use in 'modern' edit's where from prodad vitascene. i have 2 problems with magix video edit pro. The lack of plugins (look at Vegas or others, much much much better) to me disposal, and i'm sorry but, transitions like above, that's good for the travel video of uncle Joe, but ok, that's my opinion, don't shoot me on that one ;-) But thats where i want to see a change. 'modern, much used transitions (and other plugins offcourse), at my disposal, that i can download when i need them. But i guess i will keep on switching to other programs for this..which is sad because i very much love the workflow of video pro x, it's very very intuïtive..it's just lacking some support from 3th partys.
I don't know what "modern" transitions means. The one you showed is quite simple to reproduce. Other than that, with the Pixelan plugins (possibilities with SpiceMaster are unlimited; did you look at them), the hundred or so transitions that come with VPX, any that you want to buy from Adorage (yes, there is a plugin for that for MEP/VPX), I have more possibilities than I can ever use.
When I watch TV, I really don't see much in the way of transitions that I either don't have or can't reproduce. If you see one that you want, someone probably made it themselves.
Lastly, if you make one that you like, you simply save it and reuse it.
If you have more examples, please show us.
No problem, go ahead with your tutorial. Mine includes creating a mask with Xara. For Colorz, there is no plugin that automatically creates an odd-shaped mask and then automatically figures out what type of effect that I want that depends on the material that I'm using.
John CB
. . . . No problem, go ahead with your tutorial. . . . .
Thanks for that - I dislike pre-empting another users hard work an effort.
. . . . there is no plugin that automatically creates an odd-shaped mask . . . .
Hmmm - I wonder if my Mask Generator tutorial is an option here with a suitable video source to create the mask from.
Like John CB I too am puzzled by what you mean by 'modern' transition - see below.
My philosophy is - keep it simple ie:
Of course there are exceptions to the above eg stop motion can be used to great effect in sports action videos so long as, IMHO, it is not overdone - eg I tried Finn's method of creating the Zoom transition and found if you get the timings wrong, ie too long, the effect is disorientating.
John EB
Hi guys, ok where do i begin..."there is no plugin that automatically creates an odd-shaped mask and then automatically figures out what type of effect that I want that depends on the material that I'm using."
Ok, i know that..what i mean is that i'm missing a lot of stuff that actually could easy be in it as 'Presets' for a modern so called 'Pro' editor.
Some examples, and then i only talk about the transition part. With modern transition i don't mean big transitions with a lot of tralala..but actually simple transitions that are widely used now in Aftermovies, dancemovies, you name it...
Examples, look for: whip transitions, zoom transitions, fast camera pan transitions, spin transitions, whip ramp transitions, speedramp transitions, combinations of this transitions, i can go on and on.. Yeah i know you probably can make them, but that's just my point, i don't have time for that, i want them IN the program, or i want at least buy them somewhere and use them in Video pro X. And thats where it all lacks..
Name a few of the transitions i sum up above that are in it! Nope, instead, we get get a pro video editor with some 3rd party plugins where some of it are good, very good, like prodad mercalli, but the most are just junk that you never use. they should give this packages with the normal version from magix, not the pro version. Some examples, 'copy&paste' lasers and B grade style lightning bolts.. come'on..IF i want a laser or whatever in my movie, i just go to after effects. instead put a package in it with some usable value.. put lasers and all that gimmick in the normal premium version for the normal occasional user that want some creative fun..but not in a 'pro' version..
So, are there no transitions in Magix?..yeah offcourse, video pro x is full of it..like hearts, flipdoors, twirling flames, flying unicorn stuff, anyway, you know what i mean, the stuff you found 10 years ago. Do I use that..NO.. Does my neighbours son use that in his movie his putting together for his grandparents (which will be very happy with his talent, no doubt)..probably yes. ..and yeah, that gull with laser eyes is in it too!
Video pro x is a very very good editor, no doubt. very functional, fast and good music editor, nice wistles and bells, good codecs, 360 camera support, you name it, and it's probably in it..but...just that part that you really look for, some of the basics...isn't in it. If i use Adobe Premiere or Vegas, and i need some presets that are not in there, i just type them in, and i don't know where too look for first..thats the part that is missing with video pro X.
Another example, i want some other letter effect presets, in my opinion again some of the basics of a good video-editor..I can try to make some which is very time consuming or i can look for presets...which will speed up my workflow....again..still have to find them.. But wait, they putted in a new 3rd party stand alone program that is very very usefull..Vasco di Gamma...yep, a map where u can point out your travel route with a plane or car..AGAIN.. Big install, very very usefull..going to use that alot..yep...again, good to show your grandparents where you have been..but a wasted gimmick for a pro editor.
Thats why i say, magix please..show more compatibility with good brands of 3rd- party software, create a market where users show off and/or trade presets/effects whatever...Start some fire and then you make a good chance too compete with the big guys..but now...You stay in the calm waters..some lightyears behind..Good for a fast cut, fast edit. that's about it.
You bought Vegas, maybe we can now finally make the vegas plugins/presets/AllTheStuff compatible with Video Pro X?? Just an idea..
I started with the first one, whip transition and whip pan. Here are a few YT videos. The first one shows more than the whip transition. Both use the camera to make the transition, not an effect in the program. The third one is also done with the camera and the example is done in Premiere Pro. The guy doesn't use a transition effect for this one either.
There are some good ideas, but, done mostly with the camera and careful editing.
Speedramp transition
Same thing. I only watched one video - done by planning and using the camera during filming, then keyframing speed changes in the program. No preset transition.
I suggest that you take a look at the tutorials on YT of the transitions that you have mentioned and give us links to ones where the user actually used a preset, either a transition that came with the program or a plugin. So far, it looks like what you want does not exist. The transitions are created by the user in the program using the material that was filmed.
"i want some other letter effect presets, in my opinion again some of the basics of a good video-editor..I can try to make some which is very time consuming or i can look for presets...which will speed up my workflow....again..still have to find them." There are probably a hundred or so titling presets in VPX and MEP. You don't get these in the trial version. Can you give us some examples?
"but...just that part that you really look for, some of the basics...isn't in it. If i use Adobe Premiere or Vegas, and i need some presets that are not in there, i just type them in, and i don't know where too look for first..thats the part that is missing with video pro X." Can you explain this better? I don't understand at all. VPX has all of the basics - right in front of you, so what basics can't you find?
John CB
Thanks for the links mate, if i got the time, i surely going to make some myself.. You want an example of presets..this is just one of them, but like i said, there are literally tons of it, you don't know where too look first, really..as well paid versions as free packages. this is the first example i came by, just picked one out: 
Same with text presets: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x63qrn3 https://livinms938.weebly.com/blog/sony-vegas-pro-11-text-effects-pack-download (just picked out the first that i saw, so didn't looked for quality or something like that, but like you see, no problem)
I want to say hey, ok magix..it's nice you have 20 text animation presets/effects, which i can tweak a 'little' bit..but none of them is what i look for in this project..let's go search for another one on the internet..maybe buy a package..maybe buy a specific package with 'wedding' title presets... Not possible.
Ok Magix, i have a lot of transitions at my disposal, but actually almost none of them i really use because..let's face it..flying stars, moving hearts..B & C grade effects.., not going to use that in a production...what is actually not really a problem..It becomes a problem when you say..ok magix, let's download a package or look for some 3rd party package with other transition presets..now it becomes a problem.
Also that's what i said that in the new video pro x, you can go to the store (finally that 80's looking catooh away where no one was looking on) which i think is a good step in the right direction. you can buy some other preset packages..but that is again where i'm scared, that's it's not going to be frequently updated..i didn't see something new in about 2 months..and the presets are very very sparse. So if they going to update this with a few packages a year..you can make a cross over this too..my 2 cents
Once again, you're showing stuff that is either done using the camera, manually, or someone made some of his own transitions templates using the tools available in the program, and saved them for reuse. In the case of your video link, the guy made his own transition templates (which are quite simple to do in VPX) in Premiere Pro and was giving them away. John EB offered to show you how to make a zoom transition; it could be saved as a preset effect. If none of the 150+ presets included with VPX are sufficient, none of the Adorage packs, then make your own and save them. All of the tools are available. When you look at fancy transitions that you see on YT or TV, don't assume that they were done with available presets; someone probably spent a lot of time creating the effect.
As for titles, "20 text animation presets/effects?" There are 446 in VPX. You have unlimited possibilities with the Xara 3D Maker presets to adjust them to whatever you want.
There are also NewBlue Titler EX and ProDAD Heroglyph available as plugins. I have both.
And if that is not enough, then you can buy NB Titler Pro 6; there are 3 different packages, ranging from 300 to 500$. Not a plugin.
Or you can buy BluffTitler and some of the preset packs and make your own fancy titles, intros and even transitions and import them into VPX. Again, not a plugin, but hours and hours of learning because the preset stuff will never be good enough for you.
Did you look at the videos on the Pixelan site? Did you look at my Pixelan tutorials, at least the first one? Thousands of presets with infinite possibilities of adjustment. I exaggerated most of them just so the user could see the effect better. The ones that I use are much more subtle, usually, depends on the case and the material.
Magix now has Producer Planet which basically replicates the in-program Store and somewhat replaces Catooh. Your critique of Catooh is ill-founded; form over function - I'm buying products on the site, not the site. I expect the site to be functional, which it is.
I use Vasco da Gama a lot, the pro version, not the light version that comes with VPX/MEP, as most of my videos are about travelling. Obviously, if that is not your thing, you don't need VdG, but don't denigrate it or the people who need and use it. There are professionals who use it, and the pro version does not come cheap.
"Some examples, 'copy&paste' lasers and B grade style lightning bolts.. come'on..IF i want a laser or whatever in my movie, i just go to after effects. " Again, I don't know what you're talking about. Are your referring to the HitFilm Animated Lasers, part of the HitFilm Toolkit plugin that we have? Or Red Giant Knoll Light Factory EZ plugin (it would be nice to have a more full version), which we have as well? Or are you referring to something else. If I need something very complicated, I would use another tool. AfterEffects and HitFilm specialize in effects, most video editing programs do not.
You state that much of the content should be put with MEP - it already is, and I, like many other users, want everything in VPX that is available in MEP. Whether I find it useful or not is up to me to decide, not you.
You can spend hundreds of hours searching for the perfect effect and never find it, or you can make it yourself in an hour.
So, do you really know what you want? Do you even have VPX with all of the content installed? Do you know how to use the effects and do keyframing?
If Vegas and AfterEffects are your go-to tools, then why are you here?
You started this post off with a request for sharing self-made transitions, a reasonable request and then morphed off into a critique of the program and lack of third-party plugins. Do you want to get back to sharing self-made transitions, and learn how to make your own for cases that you may have?
Woke up grouchy today, need more coffee.
John CB
Once again, you're showing stuff that is either done using the camera, manually, or someone made some of his own transitions templates using the tools available in the program, and saved them for reuse. In the case of your video link, the guy made his own transition templates (which are quite simple to do in VPX) in Premiere Pro and was giving them away. John EB offered to show you how to make a zoom transition; it could be saved as a preset effect. If none of the 150+ presets included with VPX are sufficient, none of the Adorage packs, then make your own and save them. All of the tools are available. When you look at fancy transitions that you see on YT or TV, don't assume that they were done with available presets; someone probably spent a lot of time creating the effect.
Offcourse it is build by someone other, that's my whole point. But these presets help me save time and are usefull, nothing wrong with that..Do i have to make everything myself if I don't have the time for it or just don't want too?
As for titles, "20 text animation presets/effects?" There are 446 in VPX. You have unlimited possibilities with the Xara 3D Maker presets to adjust them to whatever you want.
ok ok my bad, i've counted the basic text animation/movement..29 i'm sorry.
There are also NewBlue Titler EX and ProDAD Heroglyph available as plugins. I have both.
And if that is not enough, then you can buy NB Titler Pro 6; there are 3 different packages, ranging from 300 to 500$. Not a plugin.
Or you can buy BluffTitler and some of the preset packs and make your own fancy titles, intros and even transitions and import them into VPX. Again, not a plugin, but hours and hours of learning because the preset stuff will never be good enough for you.
Did you look at the videos on the Pixelan site? Did you look at my Pixelan tutorials, at least the first one? Thousands of presets with infinite possibilities of adjustment. I exaggerated most of them just so the user could see the effect better. The ones that I use are much more subtle, usually, depends on the case and the material.
Yeah i looked at it..I think you do great work there..but i don't like the plugins personally..i saw also the example movies where from 2012...it's 2018..but ok..that's form over function probably..like you call it. Actually it's says a lot more..but don't mention that.
Magix now has Producer Planet which basically replicates the in-program Store and somewhat replaces Catooh. Your critique of Catooh is ill-founded; form over function - I'm buying products on the site, not the site. I expect the site to be functional, which it is.
Yep, very functional.. And what i meant with catooh was true, it not only looked eigthies, most of the stuff on it was from that time to..and they knew that! ..i'm sorry for that opinion. Take a look on another market, like envato market.
I use Vasco da Gama a lot, the pro version, not the light version that comes with VPX/MEP, as most of my videos are about travelling. Obviously, if that is not your thing, you don't need VdG, but don't denigrate it or the people who need and use it. There are professionals who use it, and the pro version does not come cheap.
"Some examples, 'copy&paste' lasers and B grade style lightning bolts.. come'on..IF i want a laser or whatever in my movie, i just go to after effects. " Again, I don't know what you're talking about. Are your referring to the HitFilm Animated Lasers, part of the HitFilm Toolkit plugin that we have? Or Red Giant Knoll Light Factory EZ plugin (it would be nice to have a more full version), which we have as well? Or are you referring to something else. If I need something very complicated, I would use another tool. AfterEffects and HitFilm specialize in effects, most video editing programs do not.
You state that much of the content should be put with MEP - it already is, and I, like many other users, want everything in VPX that is available in MEP. Whether I find it useful or not is up to me to decide, not you.
I know all the extra packages are the same..in the deluxe versions, the premium versions, the pro versions. Just wanted too see a difference in packages in the pro versions..why, because it's called 'Pro'. But now they just put them in everywhere. Just an idea man, for me it's fine..the more you get the better..I just don't use a lot of stuff from it and that has a reason.
You can spend hundreds of hours searching for the perfect effect and never find it, or you can make it yourself in an hour.
Thats why i use other programs, becuse there i find what i need in a wink. I don't have all the time to make it myself..i'm sorry
So, do you really know what you want? Do you even have VPX with all of the content installed? Do you know how to use the effects and do keyframing?
I know what i want, i know where to find...and for the moment, for some parts..not in magix or their plugins. And yeah, i have them all, i use magix (all the versions) for quiet a while now.
If Vegas and AfterEffects are your go-to tools, then why are you here?
Because i love cutting and editing in magix, and i love eating salad.
You started this post off with a request for sharing self-made transitions, a reasonable request and then morphed off into a critique of the program and lack of third-party plugins. Do you want to get back to sharing self-made transitions, and learn how to make your own for cases that you may have?
I think you forgot to read the part where i said that magix is a very very good editor..go read again John..And as a magix fan (yeah yeah) i would love to see some changes on a few area's where i personally think it lacks. If i'm wrong with that..so be it. But the way i see it, i learned a lot from critisism on my videos, as you like to call it.. Critisism is good..they have to use that to become better then they are now. You don't become that from positive things alone. I stand by my point, which are just 2, more compatibility with other 3rd party brands and more movement on the aftermarket.
Woke up grouchy today, need more coffee.
Good idea..going to take also one more! ;-)
John CB
Anyway, thank you for the links, going to make time for it, and i'm glad with the comments and taughts of you guys, keep up the spirit!
If magix had a plugin like this one, or did an upgrade in transitions like this...i would be very happy ;-) https://videohive.net/item/fcpx-74-titles-transitions/21433230 ..And yes, it are presets..
Once again, you're showing stuff that is either done using the camera, manually, or someone made some of his own transitions templates using the tools available in the program, and saved them for reuse.
Nope, i'm showing presets. it has nothing to do with how you hold your camera or all the rest you sum up here...I can even throw the cam in the air and stil use this effects.. Their are hundreds of them and not yet one of them I can see implemented in the new video pro x...damn..damn.. Com'on Magix, throw in some modern stuff. Here are the examples: https://videohive.net/item/handy-seamless-transitions-pack-script/18967340
You have quoted me out of context. Please re-read everything that I wrote and look at which of your posts I was referencing (more than one).
You showed links to transitions made by someone with a camera and I commented and my comment refers to them. You also show links to third party effects. I commented on those as well. Don't mix up my comments.
With your link to Videohive, transitions by Videolancer, once again, you are showing third party effects, made for Pr and AE, not ones done by Pr or AE. Some company spent a lot of time to make those transitions and is selling them. If Pr or AE doesn't even make them, why would you expect Magix to also make what some third party has made and give them away with the program? Why don't you ask Videolancer to make them for VPX?
I have given you third party links. Have you pursued any of them?
For titling (lower thirds) BluffTitler has a new lower third pack that you can use and modify to your heart's content.
Have you looked at any of the effects - Transitions and Title Templates - that Magix is selling in the Store?
Magix has added new dynamic title effects and bundled NB Titler Pro 6 with new or upgrades versions (you have to pay). With NB Titler Pro, you should be able to make something that you would like.
You have quoted me out of context. Please re-read everything that I wrote and look at which of your posts I was referencing (more than one).
You showed links to transitions made by someone with a camera and I commented and my comment refers to them. You also show links to third party effects. I commented on those as well. Don't mix up my comments.
Yep, mixed some things up like you said...sorry 🙈
With your link to Videohive, transitions by Videolancer, once again, you are showing third party effects, made for Pr and AE, not ones done by Pr or AE. Some company spent a lot of time to make those transitions and is selling them. If Pr or AE doesn't even make them, why would you expect Magix to also make what some third party has made and give them away with the program? Why don't you ask Videolancer to make them for VPX?
Offcourse they are made for PR and AE, by the 'Community'. By regular creative guys just like u and me, not only big companys like you say... This counts for Magix, THEY have to rely on big companys for plugins, because they havent give their community what they should give them... Here is a quote from their Vegas website:
year 2002: The first NLE with custom workflows. VEGAS provides a powerful scripting engine that enables users and 3rd-party developers to create sophisticated custom workflows.
Thats why vegas has a driven community and a large choice in plugins and usable stuff..they don't have to rely on some packages that they get fed from the company and in most cases are not really usable. The community has a large part in building the brand 'Vegas'.
I have given you third party links. Have you pursued any of them?
For titling (lower thirds) BluffTitler has a new lower third pack that you can use and modify to your heart's content.
I don't think so...it's good for the usual vacation video..thats it (just an opinion)
Have you looked at any of the effects - Transitions and Title Templates - that Magix is selling in the Store?
Yep...wait, i'm gonna count them..that 5 transition packs. Like I said and predicted earlier, don't expect to much from the store, it's a good step forward but hey...5 transitions packs in one year..come'on..thats not how you keep the fire in your audience. And oh btw..that transitions..Also good for vacation video's...not for pro edits..but ok, thats discussable..it's just my opinion.
A while ago I saw they put some new filmlooks in it too..I said, Oh my god..what happend..finally...maybe something usable finall...(clicks BUY) ..oh crap..non commercial version...so you can use them only in your...right...vacation video's. Thanks video PRO!
Magix has added new dynamic title effects and bundled NB Titler Pro 6 with new or upgrades versions (you have to pay). With NB Titler Pro, you should be able to make something that you would like.
Well, i have to say, thats at least a powerfull tool if you have the time for it..it's usable in a good way. And I would love they had gave prodad Vitascene with it too, because thats usable too..but no..again that worldmap plugin..again and again..like when do I use that..?? ow yeah.. I forgot..my vacation videos
Look..what I see is not really a PRO packet, i see a disguised consumer packet with extended licenses and the same transferred effects from their normal video pack...what the audience they target on will NEVER use if they are serious about video edit.
They rather put in in 6K support and brag with it, now tell me who of you has ever filmed with a RED or ARRI camera that films in 6K? Tell me.. I will say, of the VPX users, almost NONE..if not NONE. But hey, you have to start with something, isn't it? At least we are futureproof now. problem solved.
VPX has a lot of potential, but somehow it stays where it stays...in the shadows. and honestly, that's a shame, it deserves a much bigger audience.
Hi
I cannot understand your logic in the following statements:
. . . . THEY have to rely on big companys for plugins, because they havent give their community what they should give them. . . . .
contradicts the statement
. . . . 'Offcourse they are made for PR and AE, by the 'Community' . . . .
They have given the community what they want - the ability to use 3rd party plugins. Why repeat or develop, with all the inherent extra work and costs, something that already exists and does a great job.
FCP, Premiere Pro and many other video editors also use 3rd party plug-ins.
. . . . what the audience they target on will NEVER use if they are serious about video edit . . . .
Anyone who is serious about video editing will not want to 'follow the pack' and use the same effects, transitions etc, as others, they will get creative and create their own.
John EB
Hi
I cannot understand your logic in the following statements:
. . . . THEY have to rely on big companys for plugins, because they havent give their community what they should give them. . . . .
contradicts the statement
. . . . 'Offcourse they are made for PR and AE, by the 'Community' . . . .
Hi John, what I ment is that for using other presets or other things I have to rely on what magix gives me..I think their instruments are good like color change, workflow styles, import compatibility and etc. But these days you want something more then that to boost your creativity. The extra things we have at our disposal are actually just a copy from the ordinary video package. for example like transitions, more then 70 percent of them are for me just unusable..and I cannot go to some community to buy another transitionspack that works for vpx OR I have to hope they put ProDad Vitascene in it..but really, thats about it...
All you see here is just an example of what we just cannot use if we take ourselfs a little bit serious..this is CANDY. It's for packages like video deluxe, not for so called pro packages..
If I want to expand my vpx library with other things like intro's, outro's, logo's, typewriters, addons and go on and on..it's practically not possible. That's a big difference with Vegas. You have choice here because their is a programmer community behind it, just like with adobe. You can buy and build your own library with the things you need..and THAT makes a very big difference. With magix I have practically no choice besides what they give me in the extra's. So thats why I feel I need too hop to much to other things. If they work on compatibility plugins and/or a self sustaining community..Or hell, why don't make the Vegas software/community compatible..it should be day and night...
On the other hand, I 'have' also now a choice, I can leave VPX now for Vegas..after years of using this program..thats right.
They have given the community what they want - the ability to use 3rd party plugins. Why repeat or develop, with all the inherent extra work and costs, something that already exists and does a great job.
FCP, Premiere Pro and many other video editors also use 3rd party plug-ins.
. . . . what the audience they target on will NEVER use if they are serious about video edit . . . .
Anyone who is serious about video editing will not want to 'follow the pack' and use the same effects, transitions etc, as others, they will get creative and create their own.
John EB
If I have to make all of my transitions on my own, I'm not going to make it. There is also a timewindow. And you don't have too make something on your own to be creative. You can be creative with the things at your disposal. And very likely the thing you are building is already outside there...so no, I don't see the point in that. I'm an editer, not a builder.. VPX has to streamline my workflow and give me options..If I need to buid this all of me own, then they have to put another title on it.
You keep coming up with stuff that is either available in VPX and the third party software that is available.
Again, for the third time, have you looked at Pixelan SpiceMaster Pro and the other offerings by Pixelan, like BlurMaster, DissolveMaster, and 3D Six Pack? All work with VPX and have thousands of possibilities, plus an infinite number of user variations that can be done.
With NB Titler, you can do typewriter effects, and, of course, much more.
You gave a link to a guy who made some transitions for AE. The first one is simply the Gliding transition, available in VPX/MEP since forever, and you don't have to do the tra-la-la that this guy did, and the Gliding transition does much more than this guy did. The other ones that he showed are also very basic and are either included in VPX, one of the third party transitions, or by a simple modification to an existing effect.
The last link that you gave to 1600 Hand Seamless Transitions,
https://videohive.net/item/handy-seamless-transitions-pack-script/18967340
shows transitions that can probably all be done using the Magix VPX transitions and using Pixelan SpiceMaster Pro.
Don't confuse the pretty images, the text and the music with the transitions; they don't come with the transitions. Don't confuse the speed that you see in these transitions with slower speed transitions in VPX - you set the speed that you want.
As for Vegas, yes, it has access to more third party effects, however, my recollection is that most of your references do not work with Vegas either. They are for Final Cut, Pr and AE.
Ask on the Vegas Forum how often the professionals use these type of effects. You will be surprised to find that they rarely use them.
You mention intros/outros. Have you looked at what Magix is offering in the in-app Store? Frankly, I almost never use these as I use BluffTitler, modified to use my own images, videos and text effects. I doubt that you or I will find stock intros/outros that fit perfectly with what we do. They will always have to be modified and you should learn how to do so and save your money.
Have you looked at proDAD Adorage? "More than 17,000 effects in 13 available packages are included in this collection. For every situation the perfect effect- with Adorage All-in-one!" They can be modified using the Adorage interface. I haven't tested Adorage with VPX11 yet, so I don't know if they still work.
We have an old version of proDAD Heroglyph that has Templates with lower thirds, and handwriting text effects. Unforturnately, it doesn't want to work with VPX11.
I understand your desire to expand your collection, but you haven't looked at everything that is available for VPX. I suggest that you do.
If you see something in the thousands of effects out there that you want to do in VPX, ask us if it can be done in VPX or with one of the third party plugins, and how. Don't just say that you would like all of these other effects because you might actually use one of them.
Lastly, real professionals rarely use transitions; they mostly use jump cuts. A transition for effect may be used occasionally, but it is likely to be a simple stock transition.
Look at the Pixelan stuff and the other third party stuff that I have mentioned.
Enough on this subject. Unless you have something specific, please do not reply.
John CB
You keep coming up with stuff that is either available in VPX and the third party software that is available
gain, for the third time, have you looked at Pixelan SpiceMaster Pro and the other offerings by Pixelan, like BlurMaster, DissolveMaster, and 3D Six Pack? All work with VPX and have thousands of possibilities, plus an infinite number of user variations that can be done.
Again, I answerred that before from pixellan, think you missed that also...don't mind it, doesn't matter
With NB Titler, you can do typewriter effects, and, of course, much more.You gave a link to a guy who made some transitions for AE. The first one is simply the Gliding transition, available in VPX/MEP since forever, and you don't have to do the tra-la-la that this guy did, and the Gliding transition does much more than this guy did. The other ones that he showed are also very basic and are either included in VPX, one of the third party transitions, or by a simple modification to an existing effect.
Yep yep, let's see that..just read further ;-)
The last link that you gave to 1600 Hand Seamless Transitions,
https://videohive.net/item/handy-seamless-transitions-pack-script/18967340
shows transitions that can probably all be done using the Magix VPX transitions and using Pixelan SpiceMaster Pro.
I wanna see that, show me..pick a few out for yourself.. I think you wont cut it.. maybe a watered down version. Anyway, if you can do it..I ask myself why after ten years this segment still feels the same.
Don't confuse the pretty images, the text and the music with the transitions; they don't come with the transitions. Don't confuse the speed that you see in these transitions with slower speed transitions in VPX - you set the speed that you want.
Thanks for the tip..you don't really mean this aren't you.. :-)))
As for Vegas, yes, it has access to more third party effects, however, my recollection is that most of your references do not work with Vegas either. They are for Final Cut, Pr and AE.
That's true, but it would be a good step in that direction. You get the idea of it I suppose
Ask on the Vegas Forum how often the professionals use these type of effects. You will be surprised to find that they rarely use them.
Peuuup wrong, I think you would be surprised how many of them are using them..it's just in what sector you are.
You mention intros/outros. Have you looked at what Magix is offering in the in-app Store? Frankly, I almost never use these as I use BluffTitler, modified to use my own images, videos and text effects. I doubt that you or I will find stock intros/outros that fit perfectly with what we do. They will always have to be modified and you should learn how to do so and save your money.
Thats why I turn to AE for intro & outro's..I can alter them as much as i want. Not possible offcourse in vpx and it doesn't have to..we have AE for that, period. thats the reason why those intro's and outros in vpx are not usable for me in a end production..it's candy..it is what it is
I have looked in the in-app store more then once for what they are offering...All 'non' commercial..did you see that? Whats the purpose of that if I can't use it...??? So if a client says 'Hey man, I like that one (you never know) you have to say..sorry mate, you are not allowed to use that. Your online store seems more focused on the regular packages...Then we have that thing called 'Producer Planet' also from magix..you really have to look for it, most user don't even know it exist I think ;-) there you find commercial licences..for example: Outro's..you have 5(!) choices. and each commercial license of this cost you 29.90...??? I would rather spend my 29.90 to this: https://elements.envato.com/pricing
Tell me, who is going to spend 29.90 if you got for the same amount 1 month 'unlimited' downloads in much greater quality, in 1000 times the quantity, from music to templates to backgrounds to whatever. all commercial. I tell you, the people who's world is as big as Magix is. Oh, And if you take a yearly plan you pay only 14.50 ,thats the half! You really must be fucking crazy to buy in this store, it's litterally a waste of money.
So..now you also know where you have to go.. it saves you also money ;-)
Have you looked at proDAD Adorage? "More than 17,000 effects in 13 available packages are included in this collection. For every situation the perfect effect- with Adorage All-in-one!" They can be modified using the Adorage interface. I haven't tested Adorage with VPX11 yet, so I don't know if they still work.
I have tested prodad vitascene and I like it, usable modern nice transitions, Yep I like this company and their products..(i'm not a hater as you can see ;-) ) they have some good packages, also like Mercalli. The only thing, I would like I could see more presets what their different packs have to offer on their site before I pay 599 per pack.. But thats a pity..I can mail them for that.
We have an old version of proDAD Heroglyph that has Templates with lower thirds, and handwriting text effects. Unforturnately, it doesn't want to work with VPX11.
I understand your desire to expand your collection, but you haven't looked at everything that is available for VPX. I suggest that you do.
I did and I do for a long time, don't question that.
If you see something in the thousands of effects out there that you want to do in VPX, ask us if it can be done in VPX or with one of the third party plugins, and how. Don't just say that you would like all of these other effects because you might actually use one of them.
I would use more then the 70 percent I don't use now in vpx, and for a fraction of the price.
Lastly, real professionals rarely use transitions; they mostly use jump cuts. A transition for effect may be used occasionally, but it is likely to be a simple stock transition.
It depends on which sector..go take a look at major 'festival videos, after party videos..don't freak out.. and try tell them they are not professionals. Lets have a laugh.
Look at the Pixelan stuff and the other third party stuff that I have mentioned.
Enough on this subject. Unless you have something specific, please do not reply.
John CB
No hard feelings. I think you guys hit some good points, but I hope I did that too..or at least that you understand what I mean, and I said it before: without criticism there is no improvement. I would like to see vpx grow much harder, not only in compatibilty but also in community. Maybe it's not even their goal, I don't know..Then I wasted your and mine time and I will sorry for that, np. BUT what I know is that if you sell a so called PRO package, you have too sell it with content that meets up and an online store that meets up. Copy paste stuff from the regular software to the pro package, almost no updates or very little movement in the store, non commercial licenses at the wrong place, no choice in the other place called 'producerplanet' that is also overpriced on commercial items..thats asking for it.
I made my point..thats all, thats what a forum is for. Despite al my con's I have mentioned also the pro's. I still like the workflow and the tools and I will keep using vpx, but just for fast cuts and stuff like that.
Call it a hate/love affaire.
I will close this debate. don't be so foolish like me to reply ;-))
Thanks