The new features are shown on the web site

https://www.magix.com/ca/video/movie-edit-pro/new-features/#c797823

I have reviewed the J-L cut video several times. The text talks about flexible grouping. How does one get flexible grouping?

John CB

I don't use the Edit which Browj2 mentions, and I read the Mouse mode "Move object content" at the posted link. I still don't understand what it does, or why it's better than cutting and pasting.

"Option in start dialog to prevent window from showing again" - I'd like to know what this means; what window?

The item list which you see for a few seconds before starting the update (and which you never see again) mentioned it's supposed to fix "moire" and another word meaning video breakup. I've been experiencing this since I started editing HD video. And I'm still experiencing it with the new update. (I reported this to their tech people.) Until I saw it mentioned, I didn't know if the problem was caused by the software or my camcorder.

Kami

@Kami_1

Hi Kami,

1. "Option in start dialog to prevent window from showing again" This is on the startup screen. There are users who do not want to see this screen upon startup, but want to go to a new project - always.

2. "Move object content" This is used with clips that have either the head, the tail or both, already trimmed, but you don't like the start or the end and want to keep the same length, so rather than re-trimming at new locations, you simply glide the material left or right within the length of the clip.

See the image below. I have a clip on track 1 that has been trimmed at the head and tail. I copied it to track 3, and then dragged out the head and the tail so that you can see the full original length - this is just for illustration, so before continuing, I remove it. I want to keep the same length of clip that is on track 1, but I want to move the beginning to a new point within the full clip length. The "Move object content" command allows you to slide the material in the clip on track 1 left and right until you find the start position that you want. Just set the playback marker where you want to monitor this, select the command, and slide the material until you have the image that you want in the playback marker. You can set the playback marker at the beginning, the end, or anywhere along the length of your clip on track 1, and then watch the monitor as you slide the material. The length of the clip does not change. Of course, the limit is the beginning or ending of the original clip material.

In the image above, this is like moving the clip on track 3 left and right until you have the material that you want, then trimming it to fit in the space on track 1; more work than using the new command.

If this is not clear, I will do up a quick video.

The Object and Edit Trimmers allow you to do the same thing, but with much more precision - but only for the head or tail of the clip.

The Object Trimmer above (Shift+N) is for objects with no transition. Note that you can precisely set a fade in length at each end of the clip. You can also do much more.

The Edit Trimmer below (N) is for transitions.

You also have the Move object contents, and you can precisely set the transition length, move the clips, lengthen them, change the start position of the transition, and more, including selecting a transition.

With both editors, you can quickly go from clip to clip or transition to transition and make precise changes.

Questions?

John CB

Thanks for the information. The Startup window works for me, because I go back and forth between continuing and new projects. I launch the ones already started from Windows Explorer.

Thanks for taking the time to post it. I tried it, but nothing happens. I'm probably doing something wrong; maybe I'm not sure what you mean by head and tail. The video objects are trimmed.

The new features are shown on the web site

https://www.magix.com/ca/video/movie-edit-pro/new-features/#c797823

I have reviewed the J-L cut video several times. The text talks about flexible grouping. How does one get flexible grouping?

John CB

You have to press the "ALT" key when you move the cursor of the video or music track in order to apply the J-L cut

Greetings

Max (italian magix-info moderator)

@maxcon62

Hi Max,

Brilliant! Thank you very much.

@Kami_1

In my second image showing the trimmed clip, the head is the first part that was trimmed, the tail is the last part (at the right) that was trimmed. The clip on track 3 is the same as on track 1, except that the head, the left part, and the tail, the right part, were trimmed off. When you have that or at least one of them, you can move the contents within the clip on track one to the left or right until you reach the original beginning or the original ending. The length of the clip doesn't change.

John CB

I'm still confused, John. Do you move the clip on the original track or the duplicate on the next track? I tried moving a small clip on the track it was on, but it wouldn't move.

Hi Kami,

The duplicate was just there for illustration to show what the clip looked like before it was trimmed at the beginning and at the end. It should not be on your timeline. When you use the Move object content command, the clip does not move, only the contents within the clip and only if the clip has already been trimmed.

I'll try to find some time to do up a quick video.

John CB

I don't see the difference between the clip itself and its contents, or how you can move the contents without hte clip. A quick video would help!

Mouse mode "Move object content"

Max

Hi Kami

The item list which you see for a few seconds before starting the update (and which you never see again) mentioned it's supposed to fix "moire" and another word meaning video breakup. I've been experiencing this since I started editing HD video. And I'm still experiencing it with the new update. (I reported this to their tech people.) Until I saw it mentioned, I didn't know if the problem was caused by the software or my camcorder.

This feature is designed to alleviate the artifacts that are created when you take High resolution material and export or view it in a lower resolution. You get moire ( or aliasing ) of fine detail that cannot be reproduced in the low res medium. This can be shimmering on regularly spaced lines or stair stepping on diagonal lines (aka "Jaggies").

This has been a problem when exporting HD to SD DVD and is now a bigger problem when exporting 4K to DVD or even HD. Magix have done something to reduce this effect but I am not sure what yet. Maybe a tweak to the encoder settings.

Hi Max

It would seem possible to loose sync very easily with the new J/L cut feature as the tracks are momentarily ungrouped. Have Magix included a feature to lock or restore it that you have found?

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter,

The J/L cut feature does not ungroup the audio from the video. Holding down Alt just allows separately moving the ends of each separately. Once done, you can still move the ends without holding down the Alt key, but moving by dragging either the audio or video will move both together, so the AV don't get out of sync.

@maxcon62

Thanks for posting the video. I'll still try to do up one with some explanation as to what is happening and show that the same thing can be done in the Object Trimmer, but with more precision.

@Kami_1

Hi Kami,

Do you understand now how to use the Move object content command? Are you able to do it?

John CB

Mouse mode "Move object content"

Max

Thanks for posting this. I watched it twice, but still don't get what's happening.😕

Hi John, I guess you saw my other reply. Unfortunately, no.

Kami

Here's an example of what I call the "jaggies," "moire." It's not the best example, because getting the effect doesn't require a fence. There's no pattern to when I get this. I see it when editing on the Timeline. It's usually 2-3 frames, depending on the video speed (normal to slow motion) at that point.

Hi John

The J/L cut feature does not ungroup the audio from the video. Holding down Alt just allows separately moving the ends of each separately. Once done, you can still move the ends without holding down the Alt key, but moving by dragging either the audio or video will move both together, so the AV don't get out of sync.

Not quite. If you accidentally drag in the middle of the clip whilst the Alt key is down then it will alter the position of the video relative to the audio.

Hi Kami

I presume your screenshot is a magnification of a portion of an exported frame (SD? HD?) and it looks like compression artifacts caused by too low bitrate export settings rather than moire or jaggies. As you mentioned slow motion, I imagine there is camera movement involved which could be also taxing the compression process on some frames made worse by a low target bitrate.

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter,

"Undocumented feature!" I can't think of a use for it off-hand, but interesting. I think that if one moves the video separately from the audio, one would notice and undo it. I wonder if Magix is aware of this. Of course, once you are no longer holding down the Alt, key A/V are still grouped and will be moved together.

John CB

Hi Kami

I presume your screenshot is a magnification of a portion of an exported frame (SD? HD?) and it looks like compression artifacts caused by too low bitrate export settings rather than moire or jaggies. As you mentioned slow motion, I imagine there is camera movement involved which could be also taxing the compression process on some frames made worse by a low target bitrate.

The screenshot is part of a frame IN MEP, on the timeline. It's not exported. The slow motion I refer to is MEP's speed control, not by the cam. The video is HD. There's lot of cam movement, but nowhere near every movement has a jaggie (or whatever it's called). Here's another screenshot, also HD, also on the MEP timeline.

Kami

Just for information...

In this post @MAGIX_Redaktion highlights the new patch for MEP Premium. The post mentions version 17.0.3.174; having downloaded and installed this new patch my version tells me it is actually 17.0.3.177.

Jeff

Sorry for bumping old threads.

My MEP is the MEP Pro and my version in About is 17.0.3.177 (UP3).

So Pro & Premium can only be distinguished by the word behind MEP and not the version ?

MEP is Movie Edit Pro. The top version is Premium. Haven't seen a Movie Edit Pro Professional. 🙂

Ah, My bad.

Thanks for clearing my confusion.

@wongck

Hi,

Look at the Magix.com site. There are 3 versions, all are called Movie Edit Pro. There is a version comparison table. The distinction is that the basic version is simply Movie Edit Pro, then there is Plus and then Premium. Look at the table. Premium and Plus are identical in their features except that Premium has third party plugins. However, sometimes Magix may do something special and offers Plus with some third party plugins, but generally not.

John CB