Why are there two different versions of a title when I enter it?

jmcguire wrote on 10/4/2012, 7:48 PM

Working on titling now...

Having trouble grasping this area. If I click in the preview video area, a title box comes up and I enter the title, then I click the checkmark.  But when I double-click on the title to change its font, it reverts back to the original font.

 

Jeff M

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cpc000cpc wrote on 10/4/2012, 10:00 PM

Jeff,

Odd behavior -- not seen here in MEP14, VPX 2.5 or the latest MEP MX 2013. You say '...reverts back to the original font.", but your description doesn't say how you changed it in the first place. Entering your text and clicking on the check mark should, in the first instance, give you the default 'Arial'. If I double click I get to the font property editing window to choose a font but no change to one I've previously applied.

Regards,

Carl

 

terrypin wrote on 10/5/2012, 5:26 AM

Hi Jeff,

Like Carl, I'm puzzled by your problem description. I can't reproduce anything like that in MEP 17, MX or 2013. There are several ways to create a title. Starting with a fresh test project, can you spell out the detailed steps you're taking, describing what happens at each.

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gandjcarr wrote on 10/5/2012, 11:27 AM

Hi Jeff,

If you double clicked on the title in the in the title in the title tab, you simply added a new title and it would be in the original font.  You need to drag your cursor to the title that you originally created, select it in the preview monitor window and once it is selected edit font, size colour, etc in the general section.  Don't double click on the same title again otherwise you add a new title.

If this is correct, please let me know, if not I will help you figure it out. 

 

johnebaker wrote on 10/5/2012, 3:01 PM

Hi

Is this what you mean when you say it reverts back to the original font ?

 

This was created exactly as you have stated - but only the text dialog box indicates a different font on double clicking - the font in the preview windows stays on its previous setting.

If the preview monitor text is also changing then I too cannot reproduce this.

John

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jmcguire wrote on 10/5/2012, 4:08 PM

Great replies as usual!  Give me some time to go over it again and maybe I'll see it more clearly. I'll post my findings...or more questions 

jmcguire wrote on 10/5/2012, 9:28 PM

Well, I just typed a really long reply and then I lost it all because I had to log back in. <sigh>

I'll have to approach this one question at a time

#1 When I click on T, my title gets thrown into Track 3 while my video resides on track 6. Ideas?

terrypin wrote on 10/6/2012, 1:28 AM

Ideas? I  can only repeat the suggestion I made before. Spell out the steps from scratch. Without knowing what you did before the 'click on T', it's largely guesswork.

And this is of course a quite different question to the original one. Have you resolved that or just postponed it for now?

BTW, I'm curious why your video is in track #6?

MEP makes some default assumptions about the content of certain tracks. Video objects are usually assumed to be in track #1, its associated audio (if any) in track #2, text titles/captions in track #3. If you vary from those then, of course, MEP can cope, but you might have to jump through a few extra hoops to avoid problems.

Recent versions of MEP are all pretty similar in the way they handlle titles, but for references to Help or the PDF manual it would be useful to know which one you're using.

See also my basic tutorial at
http://www.magix.info/uk/tutorial-on-basics-of-adding-a-title.forum.858359.html

If you step through that using your project material maybe you can spot where your method diverges from mine.

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jmcguire wrote on 10/6/2012, 7:38 AM

Terry, to answer your question: "Why am I not using Track 1?"

"Multicam editing is a special arranger mode. The top two tracks serve as target tracks
for copying sound and video from two different source tracks. The two top tracks
must be empty when switching into the multicam mode, otherwise existing objects
will be moved to a different track."  ---- page 103  .pdf manual

I am leery about where I am supposed to put everything in this "arranger".  I need to edit video before and after my multicam edit. I just assumed I am always supposed to keep Tracks 1 and 2 clear.

Meanwhile, I will take a look at your title tutorials. Yes, the original question is the same and I lost a huge reply to it because I was not logged in. I just decided to post one question at a time until I can solve this crazy issue. Thanks!

Jeff M

jmcguire wrote on 10/6/2012, 8:35 AM

@Terry  Thanks for posting the tutotial  - it helped to see a visual

@John  Thanks for posting the pic

@All    I think I figured it out.  Terry helped me by asking why I was not using Track 1 for the video that needed text. And my previous reply pointed to the .pdf excerpt regarding Tracks 1 and 2 being clear for Multicam.

And then it hit me. Maybe Tracks 1 and 2 only need to be clear above the two camera scenes from track 3 and 4!

So I placed my video on Track 1, clicked T and voila, the text scene was placed on Track 3 and the text was visible immediately.  ( I won't go in to detail regarding why the text was not visible beforehand)

The only remaining nuance I can see is that after d-clicking the text in Preview Monitor, and changing the size by clicking the vertical slider in the text editor, is that the text in the Preview Monitor is de-selected.  IOW, it must be d-clicked again in order to modify the font.  Otherwise, all other areas in the text editor can be clicked without the text becoming de-selected:  a minor issue.

Thanks Gents! I think I can complete the title area now!

 

Jeff M

terrypin wrote on 10/8/2012, 2:38 AM

Hi Jeff,

Pleased to hear you got it sorted.

I have no experience of working in 3D but I came across this tutorial which may be of interest. The author, RogerG, posted it elsewhere as he apparently tired of trying to get it into the magix.info site's Tutorial section.

Thread with download link:
http://www.3dphoto.net/forum/index.php/topic,4818.0.html

Or direct download from:
http://www.3dphoto.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=907632140ceaabe77bc7f6bcf4afb9f7&action=dlattach;topic=4818.0;attach=31982

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jmcguire wrote on 10/8/2012, 1:59 PM

@Terry

That was a fantastic link. Thank you! Keep more like that comin"

It was great to see someone actually walking through some of the Arranger steps.  I wish that the audio could be auto synched like that with regular 2D footage!

 

 

Jeff M